Demo gameplay First Impressions
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Sabatasso
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As I've already mentioned several times already, Mak, is that I don't really stalk anyone. I just comment on the most stupid things I find while browsing, it just so happens that you and Joel represent 95% of all stupidity on the forum.
Now, back to the demo.
I find it quite good in many ways, I love that PC has gotten the choice to reduce game speed as well. Last year we could only speed it up, as if that was ever necessary when the game was like watching TV in fast forward at game speed 0.
I don't want to get into specifics, but most of the whiners here can't have played the same demo I have. I had extremely low expectations to this game, and so far I am very impressed. I have played around 20 matches, and lost about 10, 3-4 draws and been winning the last 5-6 matches. I don't feel the same repetitiveness as with all former games in the genre. Each attack seem to be a new scenario, and I can't just repeat the winning recipe over and over.
Strategies seem to be more in focus, and although the strikers don't seem too eager to go for runs, they get in front of the goal for crosses at least. Two player is very nice, and the shooting and passing don't feel as godawful as it sometimes feels vs the CPU. GK's has been average for me so far, no real blunders but a general below par performance for both teams over aprox 20 games.
A few quick fixes by Konami, and this can be really interesting as a final product. I cross fingers and toes, and await the full version with anticipation.
Good work, Konami. (Not perfect, but way better than expected.)
Makavelian
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I've played a couple more games today to have a play around with the off the ball movement and the goalies are just non existent.They really are hopeless.Th3 most pathetic shots go in or shots going about 2mph get parried out.
I see plenty of stupid comments on this forum, but your just so desperate to try and get a raise out of me even when i post a tongue in cheek comment you will be all over that shit like flys.You just make yourself look pathetic all the time,you crave the attention of me like a child.Don't reply to me or ever converse with me on this forum again.Good day.
Athlon_
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Totally agree, keepers are unacceptable. They've probably been made like this out of some misguided idea of making it more entertaining.
Another thing is about zonal positioning. Konami said, and you can find this all over the web, that zonal positioning of centre backs had been improved. Well, they were down right lying through their teeth. I just gave the demo another go, and I spent most of the last few games watching my two CBs running around wherever they pleased. Hyping a game up is one thing, but blatant misleading marketing is something else. Not to mention the fact that this has been an issue going round since PES6. PES6 ffs! 6 games have past and nothing has been done about it apart from making a video about something they said they were going to do but haven't actually done.
Another thing is about zonal positioning. Konami said, and you can find this all over the web, that zonal positioning of centre backs had been improved. Well, they were down right lying through their teeth. I just gave the demo another go, and I spent most of the last few games watching my two CBs running around wherever they pleased. Hyping a game up is one thing, but blatant misleading marketing is something else. Not to mention the fact that this has been an issue going round since PES6. PES6 ffs! 6 games have past and nothing has been done about it apart from making a video about something they said they were going to do but haven't actually done.
James_dean
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+1
And didn´t winningelevenblog.com review a similar code saying it was the best Pes ever?
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Makavelian
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I bet there all creaming over each other in there podcast,like they always do around this time of the year.
I am actually feeling quite optimistic about the final product.
Dribbling and ball control could be tweaked to give a better comparative difference between higher stat players and lower stat players.
Speed Merchant should be removed entirely. The card gives the player ridiculous movement with the ball; plus I do feel that higher stat players already have proper dribbling speed and control over the ball even without the card. This also gives proper scalling for the players and the dribbling stats.
I do hear that Goalkeeping will be improved because for now they are absolutely atrocious.
I think this minor tweaks would be possible before the final product. Dispossessing the player in possession in the middle of the pitch would actually be possible; and it would give a greater balance to the game. Barcelona will always play like Barcelona, and a team like Stoke would find it tough to actually play Barcelona type football.
Though the AI has been improved, it would seem that the AI plays the same attacking and defensive approach for the teams in the demo. The AI needs to be more diverse; try to make it reflect the tactics used in the gameplan.
Other than that, like Amateur suggested; simultaneous use of manual and semi-automatic off the ball movement really should be implemented. I would also like an additional means to actually defend in the game; so that it would counteract the off the ball movement. Though i doubt it, im hoping that this could be implemented in the incoming patches after the game is released.
Dribbling and ball control could be tweaked to give a better comparative difference between higher stat players and lower stat players.
Speed Merchant should be removed entirely. The card gives the player ridiculous movement with the ball; plus I do feel that higher stat players already have proper dribbling speed and control over the ball even without the card. This also gives proper scalling for the players and the dribbling stats.
I do hear that Goalkeeping will be improved because for now they are absolutely atrocious.
I think this minor tweaks would be possible before the final product. Dispossessing the player in possession in the middle of the pitch would actually be possible; and it would give a greater balance to the game. Barcelona will always play like Barcelona, and a team like Stoke would find it tough to actually play Barcelona type football.
Though the AI has been improved, it would seem that the AI plays the same attacking and defensive approach for the teams in the demo. The AI needs to be more diverse; try to make it reflect the tactics used in the gameplan.
Other than that, like Amateur suggested; simultaneous use of manual and semi-automatic off the ball movement really should be implemented. I would also like an additional means to actually defend in the game; so that it would counteract the off the ball movement. Though i doubt it, im hoping that this could be implemented in the incoming patches after the game is released.
I totally agree with you. The game is good but it could be improved in a few areas like goalkeeping and shooting. Defending is may be too hard.
If this is the predemo i guess we have a good game heading our way.
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shaun7
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I also agee. If this game tones down the close control, fix some obvious keeper errors, make more individuality in terms of dribbling and close control and make defenders respond to tackles better, this would be the best football game I HAVE PLAYED IN YEARS.
The attacking options aren't limited anymore and it's much more varied. Not to mention the goal variation, which is incredible.
The attacking options aren't limited anymore and it's much more varied. Not to mention the goal variation, which is incredible.
skickahit10
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After playing the demo for a few days now I feel I accurately can sum up my impressions in one sentence:
Attacking is perfect, while defending is too hard/complicated compared to the ease one attacks with.
Fix the sluggish defending and we'll have a pretty darn good game at our hands.
Attacking is perfect, while defending is too hard/complicated compared to the ease one attacks with.
Fix the sluggish defending and we'll have a pretty darn good game at our hands.