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Demo gameplay First Impressions

DIECI

Registered User
Completely agree with the bolded parts!

The part about teammates forward runs was spot on... so many times there's a chance for a counter, and they don't do enough to exploit those high defensive lines.
Through balls are way more difficult to pull in therms of placement and power than what they should be... and that only worsens the whole counter attack failure.

Also don't like how they dumbed down the shooting mechanism... there's a lot less control for shot placement.

yes this is accurate, was a bigger problem in 2011 where I found myself just holding up the break to have them move and even then at times they wouldnt make the cut. This is where we miss the arrow system IMO.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
The first demo is not much of an improvement in my opinion. Very few changes i've experienced so far. But let's hope they work their asses of at konami right now
 

IronCity

Banned
I was a little dissapointed to read the new controls for off the ball include R3 for off the ball manuevering. I have never liked any game where the R3 (PS3) has to be pressed and held while moving the analog stick in a direction. Many times, moving the R analog stick off center causes a depressing of R3 and a release of its effect.

any impressions here on that control, I still haven't played the demo.
 

Kefir

Registered User
The first demo is not much of an improvement in my opinion. Very few changes i've experienced so far. But let's hope they work their asses of at konami right now

Dit indlæg er da årtiets joke her. PES er ikke ens på nogen måde, men din argumentation er lige i skabet. Jeg tror helt sikkert, at Konami arbejder på spillet til den 13. oktober. Så skal de lige trykke et par millioner kopier om natten og så distribuere dem.

Hvilken planet bor du på? Vidste der var liv i rummet, men at de snakker dansk overrasker mig.:shocking::huh::erm:
 

scholsey

Registered User
I was thinking of buying FIFA in all honesty, just because I've been playing FIFA 11 regularly over the course of last year and have gotten used to its gameplay. But after 20ish games of the PES12 demo, I have to say there's no way I'm moving to FIFA!

Sure there maybe the little niggles in the gameplay, but FIFA also has its faults. And if any FIFA fan tries to deny that, then I ask them if they have ever shouted "***** pass the ball/****** shoot!!!" at the TV.

Anyway, back to PES, I tried a typical Paul Scholes pass.. you know, one of them ones when he'd pick the ball out in the middle of the park and hit a long ball for Valencia to go and fetch in the corner, only I passed it with Anderson to Young, and it worked an absolute treat!! :) It looked and felt so realistic.. I tried the same thing moments later but the ball was intercepted, so I was glad that the game isn't repetitive.

That really sums up the game for me... It's realistic and feels so natural and smooth. Like I said, the one or two niggles need to be sorted, but those who say KONAMI has messed up, then ask yourselves, 2 years ago, you wanted 360 degrees dribbling, better animationz, etc. KONAMI has done well to implement these things over the course of the last 2 years, so why are you guys complaining that they aren't doing anything?? FIFA would probably be a whole lot different if they too had a feedback forum, so this is where KONAMI have done well.

However, I'm not backing KONAMI up completely, because they try to fix unbroken things, which then end up breaking. Eg I had a goal that should have been ruled off for offiside. Yeah, they could have added a new feature called 'controversy', but my player was a good 4 yards offside and nobody on the opposing team complained. They also tried to fix penalties last year, but we all know how that turned out...

And I agree with the counter-attack post above, it's been a problem for ages and needs to be addressed...
 

metsuri69

Registered User
Still none tried 2players at one team? Could share any experiences on how the cursor changings work? ..was absolute mess in 2011 (worse to any pes).

And one other very important question what came to my mind playin PES2011..
Does the AI pull off intelligent faints & tricks against a player in PES2012 demo?

Mostly never in PES2011, I see AI pull off faints.. or even more rarely INTELLIGENT faints.
Mostly AI tries running through your defence, hovers (cheats) through, or passes through your defence.
Very rarely really feints past your players. I'd like to see AI try feints a lot more.
(As I use them against AI so much :) )
 

DIECI

Registered User
OMG I dont know what happened! I thought I was getting the hang of the gameplay on WE demo, I was beating the CPU 4-1, 3-0, 2-0 etc... but now I can't score anymore nor can I stop anyone, especially Rooney or Hulk.... arghhhhhhhhh!!!
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
Still none tried 2players at one team? Could share any experiences on how the cursor changings work? ..was absolute mess in 2011 (worse to any pes).

And one other very important question what came to my mind playin PES2011..
Does the AI pull off intelligent faints & tricks against a player in PES2012 demo?

Mostly never in PES2011, I see AI pull off faints.. or even more rarely INTELLIGENT faints.
Mostly AI tries running through your defence, hovers (cheats) through, or passes through your defence.
Very rarely really feints past your players. I'd like to see AI try feints a lot more.
(As I use them against AI so much :) )

Oh boy.... you don't know what you're going into...

They play like Messi and will dribble past you in a whiff... it's a bit overdone if you ask me... Gattuso doesn't make elasticos on every play (probably hasn't done one in his whole life).
 

Anysecondnow

Registered User
Didn't like the demo at first, but now i'm looking forward to the game. Pes always has a learning curve when a new game is released. So used to playing pes 11 that i didn't like the demo at first.....bring on 2012! :)
 

DIECI

Registered User
1 complaint and yes its a dumb one!! the nets!! can they make them more visible? I could barely see them, especially at the San Siro at night, make them thicker or brighter or something please! I love the new tight realistic looking shape though! :cool:
 

Rasmus

Registered User
Dit indlæg er da årtiets joke her. PES er ikke ens på nogen måde, men din argumentation er lige i skabet. Jeg tror helt sikkert, at Konami arbejder på spillet til den 13. oktober. Så skal de lige trykke et par millioner kopier om natten og så distribuere dem.

Hvilken planet bor du på? Vidste der var liv i rummet, men at de snakker dansk overrasker mig.:shocking::huh::erm:

If anyone is wondering what the above means, he just had a bad day and decided to throw it out on me. By the way he thinks i'm from outer space. I must say that i'm flattered :)
 

Kefir

Registered User
If anyone is wondering what the above means, he just had a bad day and decided to throw it out on me. By the way he thinks i'm from outer space. I must say that i'm flattered :)

Let me briefly translate what I wrote: you are naive thinking that they are working on the game until 13. of october.

Btw dont flatter yourself im not impressed.
 

fideco

Registered User
Thanks Konami,
Pes 2012 is the best football simulation i have ever seen (imho)
Please only correct the floating ball (sometimes at shooting)
Ai is beautifoul and gameplay is absolutely convincing
Do not screw it up
It 'happened before the final game was worst than demo
 

metsuri69

Registered User
Oh boy.... you don't know what you're going into...

They play like Messi and will dribble past you in a whiff... it's a bit overdone if you ask me... Gattuso doesn't make elasticos on every play (probably hasn't done one in his whole life).

haha sounds good :D
Hopefully in that case they tune it a bit, but definitely this is a sign of improvement to me
 

Rasmus

Registered User
Let me briefly translate what I wrote: you are naive thinking that they are working on the game until 13. of october.

Btw dont flatter yourself im not impressed.

Since that was not what i wrote I don't know what you're talking about.
 

Makavelian

Registered User
http://www.pes-patch.com/
Use the Fileserve links.You might get a malware warning but it's bullshit.
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Really impressed by the new demo ,the people who loved the first demo must've jizzed in there pants when they played the 2nd demo.
 
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