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Do not buy pes 2012

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N'gog le God

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Very few players in the world can dribble fast and keep the ball close. The best two obviously being Messi and Ronaldo. Ronaldo is faster with ball, Messi has better close control. But they still dribble too well in the game, it's fun yes, but not realistic. I think the dribbling was actually a bit better last year except maybe too slow.

I know it's is difficult to make a balanced game where players such these are unplayable but the answer is to make the ball a bit less sticky. I like dribbling in PES but the ball has always stuck to players feet too much, when you try to turn quickly and do circles the ball should become loose now and then and the player should loose control. There should be a much bigger difference in speed when i player has the ball and when he doesn't. I have noticed on FIFA that they do the stats system better in that players have a bigger variation between stats. Ie some players have pace 40, some 90, rather than all between 70-90. Eg: In real life Walcott is much much faster than Messi without the ball. I would say 20 difference at least. But Messi has much better close control dribbling and dribbling speed, which is partly because he isn't moving as fast. In my opinion someone like Messi is about dribbling 90 or bit more and someone like Carragher is 30-40. That's kind of irrelevant anyway i think the key thing is it is impossible to dribble with close control at a very high speed. I think you could make it so that when you have the ball you are slow but have good close control and then you are forced to hold the run button to dribble which would make the close control much worse and sharp turns impossible without loosing the ball.


They need to combine the dribbling on a game like KICK OFF or Sensible Soccer with the dribbling of PES. That would be game!
 

Rasmus

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If you haven't bought PES yet this year don't. At least wait a few weeks until it inevitably falls in price because no one is buying it.

I predict in the UK in two weeks it will drop to around £20 then maybe to about £18 in another four weeks.


PES 2012 on the XBOX 360 doesn't have 2vs2 online [as in 2 people on one console]

This totally takes the piss!

2 vs 2 is supposed to be on the PC and PlayStation 3 as far as i can tell so the only reason it's not on the 360 is some numpty forgot to put it on and Konami like the shoddy lot they are do their best to mess things up one way or another every year.


I am a PES fan boy, i've bought every one and i've always hated FIFA but enough is enough.

I am going to buy FIFA and force myself to play it. I've have played FIFA 2012 and it is much better than i remembered, even if i still prefer the broken mess that is PES, the worst thing about FIFA is still the shooting but PES is now challenging that with it's GOD awful one mile an hour floaters.


Why do they have to change the Tactic Screen every year? And why change the stat system?
Why do they have to have to constantly Fix and break one thing after another in some kind of crazy cycle?


There is a massive whole for a decent football game to challenge everyone that buys FIFA [including the soon to be me].
I think PES is gone, some of the programmers that know what there doing from other versions, like PES6, need to go join some one else and make it now, PLEASE!

The old tactic screen, the old stat system and just mod the dribbling a bit so the ball doesn't stick to shite arses feet like they're all Messi [even if it is fun]. Give them a copy of Kick Off and get them to combine that with PES dribbling. Realise that there are plenty of fast footballers who are crap, just because your crap doesn't mean your slow and vice versa, if they ever had someone like Darren Campbell in the game they would make him pace 80 odd while keeping people like Bellamy over 90.

Add in Random Selection Match and i will happily pay £100 for that game.

I must say that i actually agree in much of this. I'm also a real pes fan boy since the glory days of iss pro on the old playstation. Those were the days!

I must say that i hadn't played F**A for years until last tuesday - i tried out 1 match in F**A 11 against my mate. He plays it like a mad man, and i just chose the same controls as in pes and i gave his team a footballing lesson. Both frustrating and fun at the same time, since this could never ever have happened for someone who hadn't played pes for years and suddenly tried it against a decent player. That's why i think F**A is a big joke.

Don't even get me started on the shooting in pes 2012. It's absolutely shite, and 9/10 times my player just shoot with one mile per hour from just outside the box. Running at full speed and no defenders around him. and the 10th time, he suddenly makes a rocket from 30-40 meters away and sends it in to the top corner surrounded by 2-3 defenders!
Shooting was great in pes 2011, but this year it's completely broken for some reason.

And i must echo that it's really pointless to change menu screens and stats system, when we have in game features that needs to be fixed first :)
 

Makavelian

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Does anyone else find defending crosses annoying?
The attackers always seem to get in front of the defenders.
Also when you move your cb in the box when anticipating the cross seems really hopeless.Lest year you could actually position your defenders in the box a lot better when anticipating the cross and letting the A.I to pressure the winger.
Most of the time when your player gets down the wing it's usually inevitable the homing missile is going to drop perfectly for the attacker whilst your defenders are flapping about behind the attacker in no man's land.
I rarely cross myself now because i just feel like i'm exploiting the game.
 

orlandoSPUR

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against the COM i have issues defending crosses, but against humans i'm pretty succcessful at stopping aerial crosses, its the get to the byline and pull the ball back to the penalty spot which i struggle with against a human user.
 

Ravex

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Opinions, opinions, opinions...

You have yours, we have ours.

Oh and just to let you know: Opinions =/= Facts
 

Micho

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hi sempre, what do you mean from ea marketing department?
i am a fucking user like you and im pissed like hell about this shitty so called soccer game fifa 2012 and konami crap pes 2012... fuck you and your fifa and your konami...

anyway, nice to see some people agree with me, seems like somebody loves to play real soccer not a kids science fiction crap. i am glad
 

abu97

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shuttup mason5r, everyone is entitled to their opinion eventhough i agree it's fun, it's certainly not realistic
 

superpav

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right i brought this game sunday and went in at the deepend and played online.
lost first 2 matches i was spurs and i played real madrid twice
i played about 8 games and got thrashed twice. i drew a few one was 0 0 and another i lost 1 0 to a late goal.

i have to say im not loving this game. the game to fast. the shootin and passing is floaty.

i was 5 yards from goal center and ball landed at my feet and i went to smash it in and it does some weak shot.

im goin to start masterleague with spurs with real players on top player as people say its not as fast offline.
 

chickenzip

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No I am a good soccer player, usually in real life as well as in games. I control possession average 60% per game and create chances but I am conceding silly goals because of the crap keeper and defense... Anyway, cannot explain much here. it seems like a fairly high number of gamers here are kids who don't have a clue about soccer

your sweeping statement just showed your intelligent level i won't dispute on. :w00t
 

IronCity

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hey, there is always this
 

ramthegamer

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PES 2012 on the XBOX 360 doesn't have 2vs2 online [as in 2 people on one console]

This totally takes the piss!

2 vs 2 is supposed to be on the PC and PlayStation 3 as far as i can tell so the only reason it's not on the 360 is some numpty forgot to put it on and Konami like the shoddy lot they are do their best to mess things up one way or another every year.

i couldnt agree more, this game should be coding of pes 6 + fixes of the catch up bug, i can't defend in this game, if you lose the ball in ur half bye bye, goal for the opposition, it's too ruthless, like every shot is on goal in the corner, goalkeepers are very slow, i really hate konami for this, and i just can't help myself play fifa to redeam myself a little, the game is just too hard and unrealistic dribbling from crap teams.
 

Micho

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some people here are really weirdos... or just a bunch of kids... they are always content about the releases because they are clueless about the fucking game... just run with the ball like a monkey and score with Messi... stay happy idiots
 

metsuri69

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some people here are really weirdos... or just a bunch of kids... they are always content about the releases because they are clueless about the fucking game... just run with the ball like a monkey and score with Messi... stay happy idiots

If others of us are kids, someone else is an angst teen :tongue:
 

saw boss

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some people here are really weirdos... or just a bunch of kids... they are always content about the releases because they are clueless about the fucking game... just run with the ball like a monkey and score with Messi... stay happy idiots

Agree, wish they'd stick to FIFA and the EA forums and leave us grown ups to enjoy PES 12!
 

Gibelini

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some people here are really weirdos... or just a bunch of kids... they are always content about the releases because they are clueless about the fucking game... just run with the ball like a monkey and score with Messi... stay happy idiots

rofl
 
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