good value players to sign

[deshane2381]

So far id say Halilovic from barca B, depending on your system and style of play, if your playing 4 3 3 system hes able to play either wing or as an cm, been awesome for me at barca ousting xavi and inesta, Marquninos is best used as a rb, had him man mark Ronaldo for 4 straight games copa del rey final and champions league final we won both an id say thanks to him tbh....Real Madrid on superstar difficulty are unplayable at times. MUNIR also a good player takes a patience to see the best of him, also Tielemens is a Beast

 

[matthewjohn85]

So far id say Halilovic from barca B, depending on your system and style of play, if your playing 4 3 3 system hes able to play either wing or as an cm, been awesome for me at barca ousting xavi and inesta, Marquninos is best used as a rb, had him man mark Ronaldo for 4 straight games copa del rey final and champions league final we won both an id say thanks to him tbh....Real Madrid on superstar difficulty are unplayable at times. MUNIR also a good player takes a patience to see the best of him, also Tielemens is a Beast

yeah im half way through second season and used munir about 20 or 25 games some as sub and some starting but he is still only 64 and 67 as rwf i think but his pace is good so im hoping he will rise a bit soon.

 

[Ali]

also Tielemens is a Beast

He certainly is.

Here is my squad so far, or at least what I can remember off the top of my head. Approx ratings are in brackets:

Scuffet (79)

Chambers (80)
Zouma (81)
Chiriches (77)
Willems (86)

Hughes (82)
Van Nieff (82)
Villalba (83)
Iturbe (88)

Martial (83)
Talisca (86)

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Butland (74)
Omeruo (75)
Flanaghan (79)
Colback (81)
Bakkali (80)
Renteria (82)
Origi (80)

Notable reserves:

Meyer (81)
Tielmans (80)
Moore (79)

 

[matthewjohn85]

Nice find, I hope he isn't super slow though...



Ricky, do you know the progression path beforehand somehow, or did you just find this out after experience? Thx.

iv'e been looking for the progression path but seems its not in this year, but i do like the way with certain players like cesc fabregas was 83 then unexpectedly rose to 84 and then after two seasons he was apparently in decline at 29 but couple of games later he had risen again to 85 : ) plus anyone got gotze in ML ? , in mine he's still 22 and his first season had a burst and went up to 94 second best in game : ) just wondering if anyone knows what he goes too ?

He certainly is.

Here is my squad so far, or at least what I can remember off the top of my head. Approx ratings are in brackets:

Scuffet (79)

Chambers (80)
Zouma (81)
Chiriches (77)
Willems (86)

Hughes (82)
Van Nieff (82)
Villalba (83)
Iturbe (88)

Martial (83)
Talisca (86)

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Butland (74)
Omeruo (75)
Flanaghan (79)
Colback (81)
Bakkali (80)
Renteria (82)
Origi (80)

Notable reserves:

Meyer (81)
Tielmans (80)
Moore (79)

nice young talent there mate , heres mine baring in mind i don't need to change much as im barca : )7 games in to second season.

courtois 86
ter stegen 82

alves 80
montoya 78 (looking to trade for carvajal)

benatia 86
pique 84
vermaelan 81
marquinhos 80
rekik 79
bartra 78

alba 84
grimaldo 72

iniesta 90 but play him as cmf 87
fabregas 85
rakitic 84 but play him as cmf 81
xavi (retiring) 81
rafinha 83 (quick beast)
halilovic 72 (just went up to 74 and made his debut in a must win EL game and is unbelievable as AMF expecting big things from this one)
busquets 83 (transfer listed)

david silva 87
gotze 94
meyer 79

messi 95
suarez 89
neymar 89
costa 87
deulofeu 82
pedro 80 (transfer listed)
munir 64 rwf 67
sandro 67 i think

Zuma from Chelsea is pretty good.

iv'e already nabbed courtois , fiberglass and costa so i'll lay off chelsea for a bit haha. whats his rating when you got him?

 

[Ali]

iv'e already nabbed courtois , fiberglass and costa so i'll lay off chelsea for a bit haha. whats his rating when you got him?

Can't remember tbh, might have been 80. Bought him at least 3 seasons in.

Does anyone know if players can have more than 1 "breakthrough" moment?

FYI you should use the multiquote button when quoting more than one post -

Click the Reply/Quote button on the final post you want to quote.

 

[matthewjohn85]

Can't remember tbh, might have been 80. Bought him at least 3 seasons in.

Does anyone know if players can have more than 1 "breakthrough" moment?

FYI you should use the multiquote button when quoting more than one post -

Click the Reply/Quote button on the final post you want to quote.

not that i know of mate , but for me gotze had gone from 87 to 90 at bayern and when i signed him he went from 90 to 94 so who's to say he didn't have 2 bursts?

and sorry i don't mean to multi quote mate thanks for advice.

 

[rebelinho]

One great thing you can do to get cheap, good players is to Advance Search with a minimum of 80 in overall. Then, press R2 until you get to Affection. Players with 3 blue bars are more or less cheap, but if they have 2 or less they are a STEAL. Willian, Lewandowski, James, Schurrle, etc, all for 5m€ BELOW the market value. And even the wages get down a bit.

I suppose this is the ML Offline thread? Should I post my team and experiences here?

 

[Ali]

One great thing you can do to get cheap, good players is to Advance Search with a minimum of 80 in overall. Then, press R2 until you get to Affection. Players with 3 blue bars are more or less cheap, but if they have 2 or less they are a STEAL. Willian, Lewandowski, James, Schurrle, etc, all for 5m€ BELOW the market value. And even the wages get down a bit.

I suppose this is the ML Offline thread? Should I post my team and experiences here?

Good advice. I'm coming up to the Jan transfer window shortly so I'll make sure to do a search.

I think this is just a thread for posting good signings, not experiences. You can post your team in here I suppose, but feel free to create a separate thread for experiences.

 

[matthewjohn85]

a couple of tips if not already known. When you've sent off bid's for say 3 or 4 players and they all come back with 'reached an agreement' then adjust the fee and wages down to the lowest possible number so the green smiley face is still there. you can even do it again once re-sent but be careful, even though it stays green the second time , they can come back with a NO. Plus when you renew your players,make sure you do the same on their salary's 'an example' cut messi's wage from about 5.8m down to 4.3m or something and so on.

 

[Ali]

Has anyone managed to sell a player for a massive amount? As I've mentioned before, I've had insulting offers for 80+ rated players.

 

[rebelinho]

a couple of tips if not already known. When you've sent off bid's for say 3 or 4 players and they all come back with 'reached an agreement' then adjust the fee and wages down to the lowest possible number so the green smiley face is still there. you can even do it again once re-sent but be careful, even though it stays green the second time , they can come back with a NO. Plus when you renew your players,make sure you do the same on their salary's 'an example' cut messi's wage from about 5.8m down to 4.3m or something and so on.

Also, the scout usually says, after a few times, that "We need to reach an agreement shortly, they don't seem to wait much longer" or similar. If this appears asking for a new deal will, 100% certain, cut it off.

Has anyone managed to sell a player for a massive amount? As I've mentioned before, I've had insulting offers for 80+ rated players.

Prepare to laugh... :laugh: I bought Schurrle for 15m€, Varane for a staggering 30m€, Adama for 5m€, and so on. Chelsea wanted Schurrle back for 8m€, Arsenal (who bought Cahill and Verthonghen btw) wanted Varane for 12m€, and just sold Adama for 1.75m€. It's plain stupid.

But then, there are some players who literally don't play, whose market value goes up through the roof, and I can sell them for 1 or 2m€ more than they're worth.

Answering your question, the most I've made from a sell was probably 15m€ with Quintero. Jackson Martínez went for 10 or 12 (in the season he was named best player in Europe ), Herrera for 8m€, etc. But nothing near the price I payed for Varane.

Edit: My biggest sell was Danilo to Madrid (on their fourth attempt) for 18m€. Bought Aurier for 15.5m€ to replace him, but found out that Esgaio from Sporting was more like what I liked. So sold him for... 16m€!!! My first ever profit from a direct buy-sell negotiation, after just one year on the team.

 

[matthewjohn85]

i brought gotze for 32m and he's now rated 94 and only 22 so hoping once at the start of his decline maybe he'll be 97/98 by then and expecting big bucks back.

 

[Ali]

Prepare to laugh... :laugh: I bought Schurrle for 15m€, Varane for a staggering 30m€, Adama for 5m€, and so on. Chelsea wanted Schurrle back for 8m€, Arsenal (who bought Cahill and Verthonghen btw) wanted Varane for 12m€, and just sold Adama for 1.75m€. It's plain stupid.

Yeah, it's pretty damn stupid indeed. What's also stupid is the frequency of the transfers. It's hard to keep track of who's signed who! Players move to one club, then move to another the season after, then another. Talk about loyalty!

 

[rebelinho]

Yeah, it's pretty damn stupid indeed. What's also stupid is the frequency of the transfers. It's hard to keep track of who's signed who! Players move to one club, then move to another the season after, then another. Talk about loyalty!

It's something that has been missing for a long time from PES, a previous years database, like FM. I'm not asking for something that big, but at least the Goal, Assist and Standing records from the League, Player results, Team Results (which should have a full GS/GA/GD of all season, it's just three numbers), etc. And then, for at least your team, a recorded list of transfers, money spent, etc.

That "loyalty" is funny too. If I didn't refuse the absurd offers they make for my players they would all be gone :laugh:

 

[floWError]

Super cheap deals can be found if you Adv Search and find someone who is "putting their renewal talks on hold." I think they are under the Transfer Listed players.

Using this method I got Zerkovic (fake Australian player now rated 84 for me), and Suso.

My front line rotation consists of Zerkovic, Martial (thx for the post suggesting this great player), Suso, Piazon, Minandinho (a great starter for ML rated 78 CF), Gael Kakuta, Castolis (another good default player), & Gellazca (default player rated 81 AM).

 

[Ali]

It's ridulous the quality of players that get released by their clubs. As mentioned I got Iturbe on a free. I've also seen Jovetic in free agents (didn't sign him though). Last night I signed Grenier and Insigne. I don't even need them, but fuck it, I can afford them.

 

[matthewjohn85]

It's ridulous the quality of players that get released by their clubs. As mentioned I got Iturbe on a free. I've also seen Jovetic in free agents (didn't sign him though). Last night I signed Grenier and Insigne. I don't even need them, but fuck it, I can afford them.

yeah ali im afraid your spot on mate, i think this is another bug which needs to be patched. I went on no renewal search last night for the first time and like you said there was iturbe, colback, rafael, and loads of other players who should be at their club and it's just not good enough.

 

[rebelinho]

It's ridulous the quality of players that get released by their clubs. As mentioned I got Iturbe on a free. I've also seen Jovetic in free agents (didn't sign him though). Last night I signed Grenier and Insigne. I don't even need them, but fuck it, I can afford them.

I do this so much... mostly with attacking youngsters. Just to be sure I dont like them. But then some amazing players appear...

One of the best AMF/WF you can buy for a small fee, small wage and huge profit is Marco Lopes (M. LOPES ingame). Normally, those super fast players like Harriott, Bruma, Collantes, that other lad from Qatar I dont remember the name, either lack the technical abilities, the physical abilities, or just the height. Harriet has 96 speed, 98 physique, and 165 cm and the shittiest pass/shot when you buy him (it does get better). Bruma has 100 speed, 179 cm (I think), good technique, and 60 in balance. Collantes has thunderous speed like Bruma, but has not so good technique, and is 167 cm if I recall correctly. Equally weak physically.

Then come the good ones. M. Lopes and Myiachi. One left footed, other right footed. Myiachi has 99 speed, good physique, great skills, and is around 180 cm. Lopes is slower, but I reckon is dribbling is faster (longer touches on the ball). He's Portuguese has outstanding technique and shot, and he's very good physically. Got him from the No Club list.

...Minandinho (a great starter for ML rated 78 CF), ... & Gellazca (default player rated 81 AM).

Minandinho is my main striker. He surpassed Jackson Martinez, Aboubakar and Wroughlen (is this the way to write the name?). That was when I found I don't need a fast CF, but rather a strong one. He gets to 89 in balance in 2 seasons, if not less. Super powerfully shot, excellent technique, equally good with the three feet (right, left and head).

About that AMF. There are a few AMF in the game, more or less young, that are the good old kind: not fast, but excellent technical abilities. Georgopoulos is the best example. The others I think are only available for Asian leagues.

And the you have the stars: Mastour, Meyer, Gotze... From these I would (and I did) buy Mastour. He's way, way cheaper than Gotze, and taller then Meyer.

 

[Ali]

Mastour is still only rated about 78 in my game at the moment. Is Georgopoulos a real player? I don't like signing fake ones. He sounds real though. What about Harriott and the chap from Qatar [MENTION=215711]rebelinho[/MENTION]

 

[rebelinho]

Harriott is a real Charlton player. I have him right now, second season in the team. The first he needed almost 20 games to get an assist/goal. Adama was better than him, but I had more hope in the englishman. After a whole season training passing and shooting he is 1000% better. Too bad Lopes came in

The other guy from Qatar is just a matter of looking for him. Most super fast youngsters have not so fast dribble, because either the "fast" skill is Explosion, and/or they lack the Dribbling need. That Qatari has both, aaaaaand that's about it. I think he was complete rubbish in everything else, but I'll get link in a few minutes.

Btw, Collantes is a Spanish regen

EDIT: Alright, I found the Qatari. He's name is Enuramon, fake name for Emerson Sheik, a Brazilian naturalized Qatari. He's 36, so this is a regen...