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How To Make Edit Mode Better

SammyGunner11

Registered User
Are you telling me that the current PES game for the PS3 can't do this? I didn't buy '09, but I thought one would save kits to their flashdrives and then easily transfer it to their PS3 system.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^No. There's an edit mode that let's you transfer png's. But only in the front part of the kit. The shirt. It's awesome. And for me, it's the best edit mode in pes history.
 

Jasperinho

Virtual Football Hero
Another one: allow national teams to be changed.. Now it's not possible to change the flag and to replace any given country by another one. This should be possible..
 

martyl2

Registered User
I think the addition of making your own commentary for matches would be a good addition. People may question how this would work but it is pretty easy.

You are given a template of statements that are used in game by the PES commentators. All you have to do is record a statement to a similar effect to what the commentator is saying. e.g. If they say "its a goal" when somebody scores then you would record a statement to that effect. There would be a long list in the edit mode of what all the commentator says and all the player names they say as well and all you have to do is replace each saying with one of your own.

Not likely to be implemented but just thought I would share this idea.
 

stottmeister

Registered User
yep, like the new t'90s. they must be available in a 100 different colours.

they could just make them in plain but you can chose new colours variations for the different sections.
 

El Pocho

Registered User
^I wish we could also colour the authentic boots.

should be no reason why this isnt possible, you can do it online if you want to buy boots, nikefootball.com etc. Alot easier than adding the new colours via patches after a few months as they change every 3-6 months.
 

shaun7

Registered User
^Who mentioned patches???????
From edit mode, remember you could colour the unlicensed boots with sections? Why not do the same but with licensed ones and you can save it. Say you'll have at least 10 spaces for boots.
 

zanteive

Registered User
^Who mentioned patches???????
From edit mode, remember you could colour the unlicensed boots with sections? Why not do the same but with licensed ones and you can save it. Say you'll have at least 10 spaces for boots.


or give us for each boot 5-6 colors like nba 2k9!!!
 

Brainplant

Registered User
Expanding on the create-a-manager idea and mentioning the ML and BAL modes while I'm at it...

It'd be good if you could choose the nationality of a manager and have it have significance in the ML and BAL modes.

For example, if I create a Columbian manager and have him manage Athletico Madrid, they would be more inclined to buy Spanish and Columbian players (not rule out other players entirely... just make Spainish and Columbian players more likely to join the side). This could also work whilst playing ML, where you're more likely to sign players that match either your or your team's nationality.

This would make transfers in ML and BAL more realistic and add more options to the edit mode.

Other things I'd like to see in edit mode...

Lower league teams
More kit-editing options such as logo placement on shorts, short lengthening, etc.
Basic stadium editing
Changing the nationality of players in Team A, Team B, etc.
Necklaces, neck warmers, wristguards, etc.
Options to make faces less "symmetrical"

I'll add more when I can think of some.
 

SammyGunner11

Registered User
This was one of my previous posts of what I wanted to see in edit mode:
*neckwarmers, socks tape, necklaces (as mentioned above)
*ear tapes
*TATTOES (emphasis on this)
*the ability to use real player faces when creating-a-player (ex: using Thierry Henry's face to represent myself in the game).
*more boots (or at least allow us the create-a-boot function)
*keeper gloves
*finger gloves/tape/wrap (I forget what its called, but I've seen Ashley Cole wear them. Also wrestlers like Triple H wear them.)
*headband has a separate function.(bald players should be able to wear headbands to)
*sleeve length
*untucked shirt
*sock length
*winter gloves

After viewing other ideas, here are some other ideas that I agree with and would like to see in edit mode:
*Create-a-Manager
*Create-a-Stadium
*Option to wear collars up (ex: Cantona, Yorke, etc.)
*Ability to change player's nationality in Team A, B, etc.
*goggles (ex: Edgar Davids)
*Third Kit (for all teams, even created)
*Create Team Flag
*Create-a-Soccer Ball
*Create-a-Training Kit
*More spaces for badges & created players
*Undershirts & undershorts (It will also be cool to write things on the undershirt, so when a player celebrates with his shirt over his head, the text is revealed).
*Face protector (something like the phantom of the oprah's).

(I know some of these are already in the game. I'm just repeating them so they don't get removed)
 

Dale C.

Registered User
After viewing other ideas, here are some other ideas that I agree with and would like to see in edit mode:

*Create-a-Manager
*Create-a-Training Kit
*Undershirts & undershorts (It will also be cool to write things on the undershirt, so when a player celebrates with his shirt over his head, the text is revealed).
*Face protector (something like the phantom of the oprah's).

By no means as I totally rubbishing your ideas, but i've got a few questions.

How would Create-a-manager have any impact on the game? I can't see it being of any use at all :erm:

Same with the training kit, although I would glady welcome this (lets first get a good training mode lol).

I love the undershirts idea, Id glady welcome that into the new edit mode. Its a really good idea.

And would the face protector actually be useful? or would it just be there for fashion?
 

Baddar

Registered User
I suppose Cech could use it if he ever had a little accident in said training sessions.
 

Dale C.

Registered User
Yeah true but without actual incidents happening, and maybe head injuries implemented into the game, then it'd be useless I think.

Unless its purely to make players look different.
 

SammyGunner11

Registered User
By no means as I totally rubbishing your ideas, but i've got a few questions.

How would Create-a-manager have any impact on the game? I can't see it being of any use at all :erm:

Same with the training kit, although I would glady welcome this (lets first get a good training mode lol).

I love the undershirts idea, Id glady welcome that into the new edit mode. Its a really good idea.

And would the face protector actually be useful? or would it just be there for fashion?

I'll start off with your last question. The face protection, is just an extra accessory, just like Peter Cech's headguard.

As with Create-a-Manager, one can create a manager to one's liking and give him certain characteristics. Let's say you want to create Arsene Wenger (for example).
*Preffered formation: 4-4-2 (This indicates that the team will play better under this formation)
*Nationality: France (This indicates that any French player on the field will get a boost)
*Rival: Chelsea, Man. Utd., Spurs, etc. (This indicates a better/harder performance against these teams. Not to mention tougher tackles and heated fights/arguments)
*Tranfer Target: Youth (This indicates that for every player bought below the age of, let's say 23, then the team gets a boost)
...............I think you get the idea.

Anyway, as i said b4, some of these are just ideas that i've read from others that i liked. Again, they're just ideas that i'm bringing to the table.
 

wowie

Registered User
What still puzzles me is that we still don't have an authentic BLACK color in the kit editing.

The 0 Red 0 Green and 0 Blue only gives you a dark shade of Gray. Try it out. And Play with a team with a Konami-done kit with black shirts. You'll see the difference.
 

ZombiFleshDiet

Registered User
Yikes, OK here's a couple of ideas ?

I am sure many of these have already been suggested by people on this forum, but this is some stuff i posted over at WENB a while back and i am pasting into here, just to add to the editing thread with some ideas.
It is mainly editing related, but with a bit of game options thrown in too i guess. Sorry, it's an effing long post...

It has been said a million times before but... PLEASE bring back untucked shirts and short socks options

Mix and match kit options BEFORE EVERY game, whether it be a single match or any competition match. Or better still, Each team allowed 3 individual outfield kits and the usual 2 goalkeeper kits.

Allow us to make and name a Manager for EVERY team we edit, be it a team already in the game or one created from scratch. Allow the manager models the same amount of detail editable as players will get so that we can create all the real life counterparts. Perhaps even a small amount of attributes for each manager, such as tactical awareness or something ( maybe he can bring up a pop up menu during the match suggesting you substitute someone or change tactics ect ) or even influence on the team. Perhaps sometimes certain managers can gee your team up at half time if they are playing poorly and this can influence certain player arrow ratings in a positive way for the second half ect?

Allow us to edit the appearance of and re-name every Referee in the game. Maybe even the option to adjust their strict-ness, as it were? Maybe the referee stats editor could be balanced based so that people can't just make every ref a pushover. i.e. when you raise the stats of one specific attribute, it lowers the stats of another ect...?

Also, do other forum members consider it to be a bad idea or a good one to have player stats balanced so you can't just give a player 99 of everything ( not that most PES players would do anyway ). i.e. when you add points to one attribute, points from another related attribute lowers and vice versa ( each created player to start with the usual 50 points on each attribute but the in-game players still are affected the same way despite some already having top marks in many fields), or does that not work in your eyes ? Once created, any player used in the master league will still have growth points that wont detract from any other attributes, as per the usual system.

Could you add more options for how prone to injury a player is? at the moment it says A, B or C with, i assume, A being hardy and C being very prone. Could there be more depth so alongside the A, B or C options, you can choose a more likely scenario for that player ( although it mustn't affect random injuries picked up when playing a game ). Maybe the player is more prone to hamstring injury which will rule him out for 8 or so weeks ect. Or something like that? It's not something to be a huge influence on a player in a game, but can happen randomly at any time during a master league season, adding another air of unpredictability to proceedings, forcing you to have to change things when your top striker suddenly lucks out for 8 weeks with a hamstring problem?

Please no more limited slots for Badges and logos. On both FRONT and BACK of shirts. PLEASE make logo slots have a wider template so people don't have to make (i.e.) Liverpool's Carlsberg logos or whatever out of two slots, for example. Allow text on both front and back of shirts aswell as drawn logos. Allow badges on shirt sleeves, shorts and socks. In terms of the kits themselves, just please give us all carte blanche to cover them in anything we can no matter how much we want to put on them!

As someone already asked this brilliant suggestion: KEYBOARD and MOUSE support. It would speed up EVERY aspect of the editing suite on both consoles if we could have that!

The PES 5(?) Boot maker section was fantastic. Please more of the same but with even more options if possible so if you cannot acquire liscence for a particular manufacturer, we can at least cheat a very similar version thru the editor! Boots to be completely open to ANY colour in the editor's pallette selection.

Again someone already suggested this, please bring back the option to use in-game player faces as your own should you look similar ect...

Face import: Once we have placed a photo of our face into a character model, as before, then PLEASE allow us to ADD FACIAL HAIR to said face! It is very silly that Konami allows us to put a perfect likeness of ourselves into the game, yet draws the line when it comes to our beards! ( if we have one i mean, lol )

Tonnes of hair styles please, as in the PS2 versions where you could choose a style and then change it's length, thickness ect. Many many many presets please if possible!

Tattoos for any player we create or thier real life counter parts should they have any or get any in the future!

Another fantastic suggestion already, but when we create a player from scratch and use them in the master league, please allow us to edit thier appearance at any stage of the master league career. As of now, once a player is created, he keeps the same look for his entire career and thats not very realistic. Any hairstyle changes or tatoos ect or the way he wears his kit should be allowed to change at any point in your master league game. Created players or in-game original players.

Please add many more penalty taking animations. Please add an option to assign specific animations to a player should he miss a penalty or get sent off or injured? Goal celebrations are already pretty thorough, but more is never a bad thing! Maybe Goalkeeper specific animation options for when he is facing a penalty ?

Name calling. Could it include first and second names, when choosing one for a created player? I know some player name calls include both first and last name in the call, but they're lumped into the one sound file. Perhaps then if you create yourself but cannot find a surname that is near your own you might still be able to find your first name? It's not such a major thing i guess but why not perhaps? I was trying to think of a way they could even get the commentators to ream of hundreds of popular surnames from many countries from around the world so that we might have a good chance of finding something close to our own, or is that asking a bit much, lol ?

I don't know how this could be implemented, but a console specific ( PC can always be patched so i am only talking about console versions in all my suggestions here ) football skin editor? This is something i've always wanted as when playing on a patched PC version i always love the fact i could choose from something like 200 footballs, though i would always plump for a 90s Adidas Tango !

I assume actual stadia editing is probably pushing it a bit far, but at least create a set of perhaps 20 or 30 different grass templates. Not just lawnmower patters, but grass in differing stages of wear and tear, that we can assign to any stadium before the game at ANY time of the master league season, so that they correspond with the time of year that the game is played. On a side note, please include a monthly clander into the master league so that we can judge for ourselves which pitch can be used, or just automatically assign a pitch to a season? Pitch states should be allowed to be chosen before ANY type of game, competition or not.

On top of grass templates before a game, perhaps several lighting options, as in how overcast it is or how bright the sun shines into the stadium. Sunsets, ect... This should be able to be chosen for ANY stadium before any game.

PLEASE let us edit the stadium/crowd banners to our liking! No more "Who Ate All The Pies" or "We Love Dynamite Shooter" ect... unless we choose to want that ! lol. Even if it's not possible to put our own pictures onto the crowd banners, at least allow us to change the text to our liking

Now that the "big two" consoles have hard drives please let us fill them up with as many teams, players, managers, crowd chants, kit logos, badge emblems ect... as we can fit on our individual drives. There is surely no need to limit anything?

With regards to the club teams, the space should only be limited to the size of your hard drive, but with National Teams we should be allowed to make all 202 FIFA registered teams. On top of us being able to create a national side, allow us to assign a world region for it to reside in, i.e. Europe, Asia, South America, Central/North America, Africa, Oceana...

PLEASE to edit NATIONAL TEAM badges and kit sleeves ect... Even flags for team selection screens perhaps. ALL club team badges to be allowed to be edited. ANY team you create to be allowed it's own badge no matter how many teams you have created, as stated above.

NATIONAL TEAMS to be assigned an MP3 of their specific national anthem, to be played at the start of a game ( with of course the option to skip the intro incase it becomes boring ! )

IF we can have the ability to create all 202 FIFA registered national teams.
Please allow us to make the FIFA World Cup...
By this i mean to include EVERY qualifying round.
Of which EVERY result can be viewed throughout all the rounds no matter how far you are into the competition. Allow us ( this goes for any user created competition infact ) to set the world regional qualifying structures so that they all have to qualify exactly as they would in real life. This is so easy to implement ( Sensible Soccer on the Amiga years ago allowed incredible in depth competition structure editing ) and you can see the preliminary rounds, league tables and knockout structures of every world zone on the official FIFA website if you need to see how they set it all out.

Allow us many many options for any user created competition structure for club teams. If we want a league season where at the end of the season the top 4 play in a play-off to decide the winner then so be it. Again, refer to the Amiga's Sensible World of Soccer for a simple way to exploit this.

Master league to have FOUR leagues. You start in division 4, as it were...
Division 4 and 3 to have 15 teams.
Division 2 to have 16.
Then Top division to have 18 teams ( a total of 64 ).
When i say 4 leagues, i mean those are the 4 leagues that YOUR specific team has to climb. There should be the usual 3 other zones also which don't influence your team unless you are chosen to play in a European cup competition against them, like in the usual master league system of old. Plus the other three zones should have 4 leagues each in them also. And you should be allowed to specify which team goes into which league before you start the master league or have it randomize if you don't wanna spend all night placing 256 teams into leagues!

Master league domestic cup competition to NOT JUST BE THE TEAMS IN YOUR CURRENT LEAGUE TABLE. That's so lame and redundant. The cup competion ( not champ league ) to include EVERY team from all four divisions from your specific zone. 64 teams in either a choice of 2-leg ties or straight knock-out. The champions league, of course, to be implemented into the Master League, but i guess not editable...

Also, for the master league could we have the option to increase/ decrease the unpredictability of the weather conditions? In past master leagues i seem to have gone entire seasons with maybe one or two matches in the rain at best. Please have an indication of what month we are in and have the conditions change accordingly? Snow and Sleet? If we are able to create a competition, please to set the time of day/evening/night the games take place also?
Even for Master league if it's a viable option?


Replay editor !? : join together and edit as many ( or maybe 10 for a "top 10" rundown ) replays into one movie file that can be uploaded onto some kind of Konami relevant server for all to see? Each '10 goals' replay to total 60 or 120 seconds so as not to create too large a filesize when uploading onto servers? Maybe if Konami make it much harder to earn PES points, you could upload videos for ratings that would earn you a shed load of points for your PES shop, should you come in the top 3 of rated videos that week/month, to help you buy things sooner? Or win you a PES trophy, which i assume Konami will be implementing into this game? They could even have different replay movie categories, where it doesn't have to be top 10 goals, but a movie of 10 highlights from a great game you have just played and want other people to see ect... I guess this is already done regularily on YouTube and other places but i was thinking more along the lines of having the editor in-game for every PES player to exploit and not just the peeps out there with video capture cards ect...

NO MORE PENGUINS, EMUS, DOG HEADS ect if it means they would take up space that useful editing could need. If they don't intrude then i have no problem with them being in the game even though i personally wouldnt use them, theyre still a fun addition i guess.

This might be seen as a ridiculous suggestion by some, but what about instead of the usual dog heads, emus, raptors or penguin suits as 'easter eggs' Konami make international LADIES teams available in a revamped PES Shop? Who wouldn't mind playing as foxy lady soccer stars ( thinking Argentina's Eva Gonzales for a start! ) for the odd game or two? As long as they got the 'boob physics' right it'd be a perfect addition! ( Joking...)
On a serious note, i kinda got into that last women's world cup in China, especially when England had a bit of a good group stage but got dumped out shortly after by the US, why not be the first(?) game to have ladies in the game ? Why not include their hair/body styles in the editor itself once bought in the PES shop ?

OK, the ladies football idea is a bit crap i know. I never suggested my ideas would all be worthwhile! Thats all i can think of so far, and like i said, i am sure lots of people have come up with similar things already, but i wanted to post it incase it gave other forum members here, more ideas to add...?
 

Lugash

Registered User
I don't think we'll ever have the ability to import PC style kit templates onto the consoles without patching. We've all seen the shit that the community got for hosting real Prem kits online, that would just mean Konami were aiding and abetting copyright violation.

One thing I'm desperate to see is an easy way to get OFs onto the XBOX without losing your XBL account. I did hear Konami were meant to be asking if the rules could be relaxed for this, did I just dream this or is it true?
 
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