If Konami Can Implement What Is In The Press Release......

[James_dean]

This is a translation of a preview from a spanish site Enjoy!

http://www.vandal.net/avances/ps3/pro-evolution-soccer-2011/12106/1

After the disappointing issues in recent years in the series came PES Pro Evolution Soccer 2010, which made things much better than previous years but still could not come up with the excellent supply of PlayStation 2 times. PES 2011 announced "the most radical revision of the history of the franchise" headed to Tokyo to test the game with curiosity and skepticism in equal parts.

The impressive building in central Konami Tokyo could test for a few hours a very preliminary version of what will be PES 2011 is actually the first time you try to leave the press so soon. Before playing attended a presentation of the new playable from the father of the franchise, Seabass, who told us that things have changed and improved in this new release. Quite a few developments which exposed us and once we saw at the controls and discover as many not mentioned.





At the show could choose from some of the clubs and national teams representing the world over as Real Madrid, Barca, Inter or Manchester and most important national teams in a renewed and quite attractive menus. Once you have chosen our team for the first thing you are curious is to see the new configuration system of alignments and tactics, as we had announced a new system using drag and drop did not understand very well how it worked until it's tackle him.

The first thing we are to enter setup is that the game asks us what kind of tactic we want for the team: offensive, defensive or balanced. We can also opt for a manual but the truth is that this system works pretty well automatic alignments, changing both the schema as the players, this option already in PES 2010 but not so clearly and directly and we are sure This time people will make greater use of it, especially those who do not like to waste much time in the game settings.

Having chosen the system shows a diagram of the field, which occupies almost all the very colorful screen where we see the distribution of our players on the field. Driving a pointer represented by a hand we can change the positions of the players dragging to its new location or to the left and replaced by one that is out of the lineup.

This new system we liked it because it is very intuitive and practical, under the name of the player can see his back, his assessment or his form, not missing any options of yesteryear, including the card system of the previous version, with less presence and a little more hidden apparently in the 2011 edition also repeats the fact that when several natural position of a player, your score changes drastically. In general a facelift to the configuration menu of the team that he has laid great and that seemed quite right, making you feel like a coach who works with your board and we think will please the public.




Once on the pitch and ready to hit the first kick the ball the first thing that will draw attention just before kick-off is the position of the camera, close and low, that once the ball is put into play is in a more classical perspective, but will be adapted in the course of the game, taking a slightly diagonal perspective when the game of dispute in the bottom line, its height varying depending on the circumstances. Must be seen to see how well it is but we found it very satisfactory and one of the best camera systems we've seen in a sports game, because we are not crossed his mind at any time switch to another as it is ideal and fits perfectly to every situation.

 

[James_dean]

After this new vision where we will notice first is changes in the new system of passes, both long, short and depth have power bar. This adds another dimension to the title and seems to lie as a simple change can vary both the dynamics of play, and it's not just being able to control the force with which you hit the ball to move because now the passes are not "guided" to your colleagues, go to the area where you direct the ball or to put it another way, players are looking for the ball, not this to the players. Here when a pass to change their position or give a short race to receive it, something very visible on long passes, giving the whole a greater sense of realism, consistency and increases the difficulty, while giving the played much greater freedom to create different moves.
In addition to the power passes to those who want greater control of the game may be made at any time passes manuals, press L2 desired pass. One detail that we liked is when we interned by the band to the baseline with a quality player with very good pass and made a with a cross is that sometimes goes a long pass with effect from outside to inside the school Beckham and Figo or the most current Getafe player Pedro León, use this cash as precious as we are sure will delight fans of the passing game because we had the opportunity to score a beautiful goal by invoice. In general, such developments in the passing game make it much more satisfying to have a greater sense of control over your actions, and give the game a more realistic aroma and a simulator of football.

The other big new playable with the passes is the new dribbling system, which are made more pressing L1 an address on the right analog stick, having to choose three different settings of dribbling, you can choose from the one that best suits our style game because in each of these settings changes completely dodges assigned to each of the directions of the right stick. Obviously the proper execution of dribbling depend on the quality of the player you control, but not with the most skilled player in the world these are important, and you can not easily bargain half team, having to make a good combination of these along with rhythm changes and turns typical of the series.

With respect to control crosshead started playing with digital vocational default and then move to control the game with the analog stick and realize that this time the game does have a 360 degree control, even by refining and improving but it was obvious the difference between play with the crosshead and the stick, and take years despite playing with the spider just opted for the stick to be clearly better and more accurately capture many of our actions, but with a lag problem which we will discuss later.

 

[James_dean]

The pace of the game is very slow, very similar to a real game, and if this could not satisfy gamers demanding a frantic arcade game has been chosen to reinstate the speed bar supplies of PSone Five different speeds of play that will satisfy everyone, because choosing the highest game becomes a frenetic and very direct, while the slower the game becomes very slow and tactical. Physical contact between players has been enhanced on this occasion, disputes occur side by side and up using your arms that some players will draw a walk even if a player because they have been overwhelmed. This development is welcome but it was still a little green and occasionally snagging players suffered a little strange being more concerned about his rival charging that the ball was already out of reach, but still a little green in time for improvement.

Also changed the entry pass button is no longer as in previous releases in which pulsábamos X button like crazy until we stole the ball, but we have to measure time when players pressed and foot and put it at the right time or we will not succeed or fouling, so now we have a defensive situations greater sense of control of the situation and more likely to steal the ball if we measure our actions but that if we simply hit the button frantically.

Played several matches and once accustomed to the new gameplay mechanics and movements and the like all the new sensations were good, a very slow tempo game which gives you time to think and measure the actions, which are happy to move the ball from side to side with the new pass system and find those holes impossible emulating players like Xavi or Guti with deep passes this time we do as we please with the inclusion of the power bar, so you are encouraged More than ever our creativity when developing football.





The passing game has left us satisfied by these new passes that are a pleasure screw top, and the shots are still as good as ever but arguably even more demanding than ever when the player's body be well oriented regarding the position of the ball, vital to good shooting performance on par with the fit of the power bar. Dribbling system is there, works but is not decisive, is a good addition for which you want to use it because at some one on one you can solve the ballot but forget you that you serve to go away for half team, is quite complex to dominate not use and we play to value more deeply into perspective.

Matches either against the computer or against other people were settled in short, no results were great goleadas, although the power to increase the speed of play and the pace of the games can be a solution for those who demand an arcade game crazy with a series of attacks in both areas, enough to thank the player can adjust the game to which demands at every moment, but for lovers of the simulators the default speed is really good.

The improvement in physical contact is evident but has a lot to improve and not seen in a normal match several situations in which two opponents face with their shoulders during long runs almost ignoring the ball, this inclusion is welcome but we hope that correct as it could become a virtue rather than a defect, like others who witnessed it will continue to observe if corrected in future game shows. Goalkeepers erratic as soon go from being poor devils, gods, or defenders who are crossing the wires which Perea and let us sold on defense. Obvious errors of an early version but solvable, although the one we all bothered by their ability to blur the rest of work well done was the slow response of the controls.

 

[James_dean]

Are useless as many improvements and additions, new dribbling and passing, if after our orders with the command are not reflected in the immediacy required, if players always take a few tenths of more turned in to crop. It's something that bothered many people and one of the great scourges of the 2010 version and that is still there, and we wanted the first thing that should have been fixed.

Lack of immediacy and fluency in the implementation of actions, is not outrageous or too visible to the naked eye, and does not greatly affect the development of the game from defense to midfield past, but when we are facing the final meters where the defense rival is closed and we have to make combinations and moves very fast players to overcome the defenders when this error is shown in all its splendor bothering slow dramatically when players react. To solve this big black spot and other smaller polished depend on this PES win back public favor for the moment have to be cautious and still much development time, but in the interview that we make to this we Seabass said they are working hard to improve the control.
In addition to the visual appearance of the new camera system and a better general illumination of the field where novelty is quickly appreciate the new animations, which are quite numerous especially in the amount of dribbling skills and how these are linked to the other actions, as well as whole new set of animations that bring the new systems of physical contact. The greatest achievement at this point is how to link the animations to each other, in a much more natural and fluid than in past deliveries, affecting a very positive way to the gameplay. One thing that is appreciated enough is that players are no longer so "weird" and unnatural and the delivery of the previous year, and the porters have had a facelift with new and spectacular stops very convincing and realistic, some framing for plastic beauty, but still suffered from problems of artificial intelligence and gave us so much as moments of real inspiration strange and desperate vocals.

It has generally improved the design of counting players with good physical proportions, a few slight improvements in their faces, especially those related to lighting and a great improvement in the design of the costumes, being better proportioned pants, which not seem shorts, T-shirts and counting the wrinkles and folds very well represented. In the case of Barcelona, a team that seems to idolize enough game developers because it was subject to all the presentations, all players are designed to perfection, not even as popular internationally as Peter who have a similar huge, we expect that the development time left get the same excellence with the other teams. Other technical details are most successful lighting and less saturated than the previous delivery and
inclusion of an effect "motion blur" or blurring in the repetitions that is quite good and makes them more colorful.

In this release the power bar is omnipresent and vital to be taken both in countries such as shooting and even throw-ins, so we have chosen a better visual representation, this time under the player who performs the action in the form of a semicircular blue line to red, very visible and practical without hindering the action, we believe a decision to please almost everyone. Another detail that caught our attention is now during the game scoring below the statistics show we are meeting as the shot on goal from both teams and outside on goal, which brings the fun and sunk by the comments playing against a friend that may be conducted on these data to come to demonstrate in numbers the bathroom that we are giving.

Finally comment on some details of which we perceive as the graphic enhancement of the fans in the front rows of the bleachers that this time is more character than ever before due to the new dynamic camera angles cause more vision where we shows the stands and this is not at odds with the good looks of the pitch. The graphic engine is very robust in all times and in no case does not suffer significant drops in frame rate per second, despite improvements in lighting. As for the sound is not one of the sections in which a more fixed on first contact but we appreciate new hobbies songs belonging to the teams we played and a significant improvement in the sound produced when striking the ball, more real and convincing than in previous years it became a bit strange and annoying.

We have discussed many new and positive aspects, all of them successful and what drives up the title a couple of steps in terms of levels of fun and realism, but the game still has a lot to polish and fix some errors in this remedy lies that the game finally back on track or stay in another good try. As in the delivery of 2010 the game again as somewhat slow response to our orders, a slight delay in their delivery, and slowly, sometimes with exasperating when making sharp turns and orient the body of our players , so all the good done in the new pass system was a bit dull at this lack of flexibility to execute our actions.
The AI of the defenses made things very rare and closed as soon as they gave cantazos well as goalkeepers. You have to understand that it was a very preliminary version as PES has never been shown to the press so soon, so we hope that the next time we go we enjoy seeing how they will solve all these errors, but what can we say PES 2011 is definitely left us wanting more playing time, which is the best that can be said of any game.

What is undeniable is that you could feel the desire and the work done to provide sufficient new and give the final change of direction to return to please both critics and followers of all life, the game has large willows and very good ideas and there is a definite turn towards the simulation to please many, but hopefully these last months of development become so critical right now is a welcome promise a reality, as were the old until the arrival of supplies the current generation of consoles. Not an easy task to one worn by the tireless followers annual promises "this year itself," increasingly skeptical but with more enthusiasm than anyone that PES again regain its glory.

That´s it!

 

[kiwanis]

Don't Believe The Hype!!!

Honestly I simply cannot fathom the utter joy going on from certain people in the community; for example over at WENB staff members are going WAY over the top (even for that site).

I went over there and one of the staff commented how he was still "reeling" from the excitement of the Ivory Coast kit being skin tight, now I couldn't help but think how stupid he sounds.

Either that or he has expectations akin to an 11 year old kid.

 

[Tech_Skill]

Honestly I simply cannot fathom the utter joy going on from certain people in the community; for example over at WENB staff members are going WAY over the top (even for that site).

I went over there and one of the staff commented how he was still "reeling" from the excitement of the Ivory Coast kit being skin tight, now I couldn't help but think how stupid he sounds.

Either that or he has expectations akin to an 11 year old kid.

We just need to see more of the in game footage, but everyone getting hyped about that wide camera angle as if its an innovation, has this 'broadcast' camera been in previous versions of pes? its deffo in fifa and does pretty much the same thing im sure. I'm sure this game will be an improvement over previous versions (if i had to guess) but i dont see anything earth shattering just yet, but maybe its the small touches that make the game.

What I wanna know about is the passing, hopefully there is a power bar for all passing, not just manual.

 

[shaun7]

I hope the power bar is there for all passing. I think it is, but anyway I hope it is.
Also, I can't see how one can say it's the same as pes 10 or it's miles better that pes 10.
You cannot conclude anything so far. If the passing and collision systems and freedom are there like the article explained, then you have to play it to see it. And that video footage is just a footage from a normal video cam. That's not conclusive enough. It can vary the framerate which overall can make the game appear in a different pace and the graphics and animations won't look clear. I just can't see how one can make a judgement on that.
I'll wait and see.

From that article can we choose the speed of play like the ISS days? Seems like it. If so, that's good.

 

[R9NALD9]

One thing I"m excited about is the fact that we will have the speed setting back from the PS1 days! Makes me excited that Konami is finally listening

 

[kiwanis]

things might not be ok in PES land

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/109/1092937p2.html

Jinks, feints and dummies – another area that's seen a lot of additions this year and intended to be truly effective maneuvers, rather than just 'showcasing' as in previous iterations - didn't really work well, at least not in the build we played, and there were many instances of players stuttering or being stunned into inactivity after a tackle or jostle. Speaking of jostling, it seemed very one-sided, with the CPU players able to knock us off the ball far more easily than we could return the favor.

Occasionally, the keeper would also become frozen in place, standing motionless and watching the ball sail past him into the back of the net; another annoying bug that we're confident will be addressed.

Oh dear. Not much time left before the game must be finished.

 

[shaun7]

^That happens in football. (the GK motionless)
I also want it in pes but not too extreme. Perhaps it's extreme. If this is the case, I hope it gets reduced.
I hope the other issues are fixed though because that doesn't seem ok.

 

[byrnie05]

Eurgh, even I who is on the PES side feels player weight needs to be added properly, as it works quite well in the WC game. The lack of player team jostling compared to the steamroller AI is possibly the biggest failing of the recent games.

On the subject of motion blur though and this won't appeal to all players, but I currently take shots of replays on my digicam. I'd love it if there was a screenshot mode, akin to Fifa and Forza, but with more controls similar to the latter and an online upload service. Little things like that define the next gen as much as anything else.

 

[Tech_Skill]

Eurgh, even I who is on the PES side feels player weight needs to be added properly, as it works quite well in the WC game. The lack of player team jostling compared to the steamroller AI is possibly the biggest failing of the recent games.

Spot on there.

I havent really followed the impressions just yet, ill try when i get some time, to be honest, im more interested in seeing the game at the moment than hearing others talk about it. Reviewers do tend to talk shit, remember fifa 'best football game of all time ' 10???

That wasnt even the best football game on my shelf let alone best fucking game ever.

 

[jameslv]

from JeuxVideo preview in the impressions thread , translate is a bit off. But one good point they say the differnece between PES 2011 and 2010 is like night and day. At least konami have changed the game.

 

[Jess C]

Spot on there.

I havent really followed the impressions just yet, ill try when i get some time, to be honest, im more interested in seeing the game at the moment than hearing others talk about it. Reviewers do tend to talk shit, remember fifa 'best football game of all time ' 10???

That wasnt even the best football game on my shelf let alone best fucking game ever.

There's no football that's come close top PES5. That was perfection right there. I got bored of FIFA10 after the first two weeks.

 

[Tech_Skill]

There's no football that's come close top PES5. That was perfection right there. I got bored of FIFA10 after the first two weeks.

I dunno about that, i think pes3 was THE definitive moment in pes.

I think thats the pes where the master league was restructured into what we know now with the inlcuision of european cup competitions, i think it was the 1st pes where the advantage rule was brought in, the first pes that had real kits, i believe the graphics were improved and the gamplay was great from what i remember.

ISS pro evolution soccer on ps1 was another watershed moment, that game was just insane for its time, especially when you compared it to fifa on ps1, the gap was huge, it just had so much playabilty, goal variety, in game atmosphere was good, that game was a bit like the Goldeneye of football games, alot of the standards in todays games arguably come from that game.

Best game on next gen i played is fifa 09, mark my words, in years to come, people will still be harping on about it, for all its flaws, it just played a quality game of football.

 

[jameslv]

I dunno about that, i think pes3 was THE definitive moment in pes.

I think thats the pes where the master league was restructured into what we know now with the inlcuision of european cup competitions, i think it was the 1st pes where the advantage rule was brought in, the first pes that had real kits, i believe the graphics were improved and the gamplay was great from what i remember.

ISS pro evolution soccer on ps1 was another watershed moment, that game was just insane for its time, especially when you compared it to fifa on ps1, the gap was huge, it just had so much playabilty, goal variety, in game atmosphere was good, that game was a bit like the Goldeneye of football games, alot of the standards in todays games arguably come from that game.

Best game on next gen i played is fifa 09, mark my words, in years to come, people will still be harping on about it, for its flaws, it just played a quality game of football.

yeah I agree with Fifa 09. But I think it will be surpassed, it still has a lack of depth and no individuality. However if it wasn't for Fifa 09. We would still be stuck behind time. EA's superiority has forced Konami to step it up. The old Fifa vs PES will always crop up. But they offer a different experience. Maybe 2011 both will be good for different reasons.

 

[shaun7]

Pes 3 was the biggest improvement in pes history. But pes 5 for me is the best pes ever. It had more depth.
Anyway, I agree to a point that fifa 09 was better than 10 because 10 was over hyped and for that hype it had, it didn't quite deliver. Although, overall it's still a great game.

I am really pleased with the fact that pes 11 will have speed changes that will change from arcade to a more sim type. I hope the sim type will be similar to fifa 10 but with individuality that pes already has.
Here's hoping again.

 

[Jess C]

I dunno about that, i think pes3 was THE definitive moment in pes.

I think thats the pes where the master league was restructured into what we know now with the inlcuision of european cup competitions, i think it was the 1st pes where the advantage rule was brought in, the first pes that had real kits, i believe the graphics were improved and the gamplay was great from what i remember.

ISS pro evolution soccer on ps1 was another watershed moment, that game was just insane for its time, especially when you compared it to fifa on ps1, the gap was huge, it just had so much playabilty, goal variety, in game atmosphere was good, that game was a bit like the Goldeneye of football games, alot of the standards in todays games arguably come from that game.

Best game on next gen i played is fifa 09, mark my words, in years to come, people will still be harping on about it, for all its flaws, it just played a quality game of football.

PES3 was the marquee EVOLUTION moment but PES5 was the series at it's pinnacle imo.

 

[bongplayer]

Waaay, waaay too early to make judgments people.

What we have here is a little insecure Konami attempting to say "Ignore that other game, look here, we're first!". A strategic business ply if you will, which they really need to do since that other footie game has just sat on PES and is pounding hard for the last few years.

This time let's not all get boners every time they make an insignificant announcement (i.e: Messi sweats more when his stamina goes down), the one and only thing I expect out of 2011 is revamped AI if thats not fixed then I'll happily prefer the dark side.

 

[muzza798]

I think if the linking annimations were put in along with full defensive controls im sure the journo's would of been alot more enthusiastic.

There are so many positives its hard to keep track of them all. Stuff like that tactic where you can say if were 2-0 up we'll automatically go defensive to stuff like the 360 having option files.