New Video

[Alolo91]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSGTs597TO4

The only problem is, That it still looks like shit. Especially the movement animations.

 

[zizou4ever]

It looks like we will have a PES 2011.5

 

[shaun7]

A positive thing I noticed is that the movement is better. Look at that lofted ball and then the volley. That wasn't possible in pes 11 because you couldn't hit a volley no matter what if you were close to the keeper.
And although the animations are bad, it looks smoother than pes 11 which is always good. Oh and you can play slow ground passes too.

Waiting to see more and again, I won't judge before I see the demo or at least more videos especially gameplay.

 

[Zorac1979]

I hope the improve the sound, the crowd and commentary has been god awful for years now, When you score a goal even at home it's like "Yehh, yawwn, whatever"

 

[Hunter]

A positive thing I noticed is that the movement is better. Look at that lofted ball and then the volley. That wasn't possible in pes 11 because you couldn't hit a volley no matter what if you were close to the keeper.

I'm guessing you overlooked how in this trailer the right back who could have intercepted the lofted through ball just stood there stiff like a lemon and let the ball go by.

It's difficult to say whether it's even PES 2011.5, it's probably more like PES 2010.5 to be honest. I mean, the video opened up with Ashley Cole pinging a 40 yard pass comfortably...with his right foot. :unsure:

 

[shaun7]

^Well, the same thing happened in pes 11 and to be honest a pes 10 .5 is way to harsh becuase that game was a 125 mph dribbling everyone with high seed players not a slow paced tactical game. So it's for sure not pes 10.5.

But a pes 11.5,I would say so, yeah from the trailer.
Oh and I try to stay positive before E3 because even though pes and fifa aren't on my most watch list in E3, I still want a football game for another year, because I like football.

So I try to stay positive.

 

[Hunter]

Believe me when I say I'm a hugely optimistic person, and a very positive one as well, I guess PES and football games is just one area where I've lost all hope.

We need 2K to develop a football game, desperately.

 

[shaun7]

Well a new developer would bring competition so it will always be good.
As you see, I also lost the excitement I had for football games but I still try to judge after gameplay videos or demos especially.

So again, I'll wait and see.

 

[joekim1]

i'm still troubled by the lack of vertical 1-2s. all the attacking movement is forwards, never ever sideways. it's like SF4, compared to something like tekken or virtua fighter.

 

[Ali]

The footage doesn't look too different from this year's game, unfortunately. The animations still look stiff and unrealistic. I'll remain slightly hopeful, but that will fade if they continue to produce footage like this.

 

[shaun7]

^Animations are a priority afterall in pes, but there were other annoyances in pes 11 much worse, like defenders catching up and attackers slowing down randomly and response times on volleys.

Anyway I agree that they should put propert gameplay footages because those are 1 time attacks and doesn't show much.

 

[Ali]

^Animations are a priority afterall in pes, but there were other annoyances in pes 11 much worse, like defenders catching up and attackers slowing down randomly and response times on volleys.

Anyway I agree that they should put propert gameplay footages because those are 1 time attacks and doesn't show much.

I know there's more problems in PES, like the ones you mentioned, but it's hard to notice those from that short footage.

I saw a video on IGN with some mo-cap footage. WHO are they getting to do the bloody mo-cap? Must be the worst footballer ever!

 

[BuddhaBone]

I can't help but to think that this 2012 installment will be nothing more than the errors/bug-corrected version of 2011. PR will do its best to sell us all that stuff as new. Maybe they even put some nice old but lately removed options like running directions of players back in and do some other nice UI style so all looks "new" again. But the principle behind it will still fail to satisfy real PES vets as they prove with every year of next-gen installments that they make 2 steps back when they do 1 forward. And still I must repeat: This looks like 2011 without the partly gamebreaking errors of the original 2011 we are hanging around with now.

And to be honest: If this is all they change from what I can see, why not bring an update to 2011 optimizing the AI? It would be possible, I'm sure. They just don't want because they want to make money with this "full version update".

I also hope they remove those two strange ability cards for sprinting and turning like crazy (Arshavin, Messi, CR7, Elia, Capel etc.) or at least modify them that it is less obvious compared to other top speed guys like Agüro, Pato and others. It's just toooooo obvious. Generally I'd like to see a real difference between stats of players but in a fluid transition, not like now. This also applies to defenders who should stick realistically to what top speed they can really have. A defender is too slow? Have a better AI positioning them accordingly to their defence skill and it will always be up to the player to fail or succeed. Like now it's just ridiculous. Konami integrated another error in gameplay to cover another error here... And it seems they just go on with that. Just to avoid the unavoidable: Redesign the game and create a new future-proof engine!

 

[Pantilimon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSGTs597TO4

The only problem is, That it still looks like shit. Especially the movement animations.

Ghahahaha aren't you the one who was arguing with me about the shity gameplay? Yes you are...
I don't know if you remember when you told me that I was stupid and imature because I had judged a game by a single video that soon.
You retard, now you think the way I do, the right thinking.Good to see you've progressed a little bit from your stupidity.

 

[Neox9114]

Ghahahaha aren't you the one who was arguing with me about the shity gameplay? Yes you are...
I don't know if you remember when you told me that I was stupid and imature because I had judged a game by a single video that soon.
You retard, now you think the way I do, the right thinking.Good to see you've progressed a little bit from your stupidity.

PM him, dont use the forum for your personal vendettas, lets keep it constructive please.

I wasn't Impressed by the video (well maybe just a bit by the graphics), It was like watching the new FIFA 12 video, They are trying to sell you the same product with different tag lines, its really disappointing.

 

[Pantilimon]

Yes you're right and sorry for that, but I was so surprised to see his post that to give him a PM.

 

[S-D-P]

Loved PES 2011, can't fucking wait for PES 2012, never perfect but konami make this game for the hardcore who understand football and people who know its not just about fancy fucking animations.

The only thing that irritates me is pes 2008,09 and 10 should have been much better and obviously this effected future games.

PES 2011 was an immensely deep game and took a long time to fully discover and master, I hope pes 2012 has a tutorial for the people who bitch and moan about the game before they understand it.

Manual cursor change must be improved, this is crucial for me and konami need to cut down on some silly balancing acts and illogical flaws that were not present in PES 2.

 

[Mighty__Mag]

I can't help but to think that this 2012 installment will be nothing more than the errors/bug-corrected version of 2011. PR will do its best to sell us all that stuff as new. Maybe they even put some nice old but lately removed options like running directions of players back in and do some other nice UI style so all looks "new" again. But the principle behind it will still fail to satisfy real PES vets as they prove with every year of next-gen installments that they make 2 steps back when they do 1 forward. And still I must repeat: This looks like 2011 without the partly gamebreaking errors of the original 2011 we are hanging around with now.

And to be honest: If this is all they change from what I can see, why not bring an update to 2011 optimizing the AI? It would be possible, I'm sure. They just don't want because they want to make money with this "full version update".

I also hope they remove those two strange ability cards for sprinting and turning like crazy (Arshavin, Messi, CR7, Elia, Capel etc.) or at least modify them that it is less obvious compared to other top speed guys like Agüro, Pato and others. It's just toooooo obvious. Generally I'd like to see a real difference between stats of players but in a fluid transition, not like now. This also applies to defenders who should stick realistically to what top speed they can really have. A defender is too slow? Have a better AI positioning them accordingly to their defence skill and it will always be up to the player to fail or succeed. Like now it's just ridiculous. Konami integrated another error in gameplay to cover another error here... And it seems they just go on with that. Just to avoid the unavoidable: Redesign the game and create a new future-proof engine!

Agree with most of the points made here... at the moment though this is a new game engine on the previous & in 2010 the game speed was insane! even now 2011 its still too fast when on -2

I think thats just a trailer and the rest will come nearer september when game testers get their hands on the pre release, also it was nice to see pes take the mantle back from Fifa this season as Fifa 11 was pure sh*t, so I would imagine Pes developers would wanna keep the fans onside and add to the game from reports in the gaming community.....

 

[Alolo91]

Ghahahaha aren't you the one who was arguing with me about the shity gameplay? Yes you are...
I don't know if you remember when you told me that I was stupid and imature because I had judged a game by a single video that soon.
You retard, now you think the way I do, the right thinking.Good to see you've progressed a little bit from your stupidity.

:lol::lol::lol:

Still having problems building up your sentences properly i see. Can't really expect anything from a fuck like you.

I remember. You are still stupid and immature, Just look at the 2 first sentences. WTF is that?

Last year you bashed PES like your life was based on it. I never said that you judged the game too soon. You couldn't explain why you bashed PES, Plus we were at Gamescom. Go and look at your laughable posts and compare them to my current posts about PES. We are at E3 now and i'm nowhere near your bashing.

I can assure you that no one will ever reach your level when it comes to stupidity. Now piss off you son of a whore.

 

[Neox9114]

:lol::lol::lol:

Still having problems building up your sentences properly i see. Can't really expect anything from a fuck like you.

I remember. You are still stupid and immature, Just look at the 2 first sentences. WTF is that?

Last year you bashed PES like your life was based on it. I never said that you judged the game too soon. You couldn't explain why you bashed PES, Plus we were at Gamescom. Go and look at your laughable posts and compare them to my current posts about PES. We are at E3 now and i'm nowhere near your bashing.

I can assure you that no one will ever reach your level when it comes to stupidity. Now piss off you son of a whore.

Pantilimonbe the better man and dont respond to this.
Please stop polluting the forum.