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Official PES3 Impressions Thread - Tell us what you think...

dannyboy20

Registered User
I agree with gaza here. It's better than WE7! I have to say Kezz has got this very wrong.

The stutter is completely gone for me, played about 10 games this morning and I havent' experience it at all unlike the BETA and demo. I never experience the stutter in WE7 either so....

Also the speed is not too fast, it feels just right. I did play WE7 at my mates house on my way back from my girlfriends and WE7 seemed faster to me! (I have WE7 too so i'll have a game of that in a bit to compare a bit better).

I guarantee anyone who buys PES3 will NOT be disappointed. So no need to worry people

PS. The demo does NOT do the final version any justice at all. The demo is based on the beta version and isn't very good at all IMO.
 

gaza1725

Registered User
dannyboy20 said:
I guarantee anyone who buys PES3 will NOT be disappointed. So no need to worry people

PS. The demo does NOT do the final version any justice at all. The demo is based on the beta version and isn't very good at all IMO.
Spot on matey the demo dose not do the final version justice just can't figure out why konami would offer an inferiour demo which could have put some pll off buying the game , the demo is like a different game to me ive noticed quite a few minor tweeks.
And no jag now that the games has been ripped onto a cd it plays exactly the same as the dvd version the smoothest ive ever played , its hard to discribe but its the most noticeable on crosses when you cross the ball instead of it floating abit unrealistic into the box it sort of leaves the players foot with for vernom and passes through the air much more realisticly , i havent played it on 50hz but would think it to be the same and not many pll will be playing the 50hz anyways i mean a scart lead is cheap enough ;)
 

tarantino

Registered User
gaza1725 said:
Spot on matey the demo dose not do the final version justice just can't figure out why konami would offer an inferiour demo which could have put some pll off buying the game , the demo is like a different game to me ive noticed quite a few minor tweeks.
And no jag now that the games has been ripped onto a cd it plays exactly the same as the dvd version the smoothest ive ever played , its hard to discribe but its the most noticeable on crosses when you cross the ball instead of it floating abit unrealistic into the box it sort of leaves the players foot with for vernom and passes through the air much more realisticly , i havent played it on 50hz but would think it to be the same and not many pll will be playing the 50hz anyways i mean a scart lead is cheap enough ;)

You just made my day mate, thanks.

So you think the game is better than we7 even if it is faster than we7 (according to kezz)?

But can you comment on this post by some1 at the evo-web
forum:
Hello all.

Im a videogame journalist and i own Winning Eleven 7. In the previous months i have played two beta versions of PES3 which are based entirely on the Winning Eleven gameplay mechanism, therefore had the same speed and flow, the weak-powered headers and the stutter.

Two days ago i got the final version of PES3. I played it in the magazine's offices and at home for more than 50 matches. I would like to comment on the changes. I repeat. This is what all of you are going to experience by bying PES3.

A) The speed is indeed too fast. I regret that Konami have once again treated us like arcade freaks, breaking the natural flow of the game that was the core success of this year?s Winning Eleven. The speed prevents from intelligent play, especially when you choose to play as one of the great clubs or international teams. For example, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos, Zidane, Henry, Shevchenko, Raul, Vieri, Totti, Del Piero, Owen (and some others) are virtually unstoppable. Playing Winning Eleven never gave you the idea that having one great player is gonna make the ultimate difference in a match. Thus, PES3 returns us to the days of PES2 when playing Roberto Carlos on the front was as good as having Ronaldo.

B) Due to the change of speed, dribbling is much easier. The A.I. doesnt have the time to commit fouls (in order to break the flow as it happens in real football). The speed also makes the tactics seem less useful, as there is no problem returning with an attacker in your defence and taking the ball to launch a counter. He will easily reach the middle and the opponents area in no time.

C) The headers are better than the ones in WE7 so is the shooting. They r more powerfull and direct, correcting the problem of unrealistic shots in the Japanese versions. Like in real football, almost any player can shoot with speed and power (not accuracy) in the minimum space on the field. Thankfully this is simulated with great detail on PES3.

D) In general it is easier (mainly due to the speed) but the A.I. can be blocked more easily without a foul, as the players seem to hold the ball with less skill.

E) The ball physics are better and more realistic. The players have more freedom in their movements and move to open spaces faster. On the other hand, the A.I. seem sometimes a little out of order (again like in PES2), where seeing an opponent on a tet-a-tet doesnt mean that he is going to shoot. Sometimes he just passes to another that is way behind.

In general, PES3 have many positives in comparison to WE7. Unfortunatelly, though most of the problems can be overlooked, the problem of speed cannot. On the other hand, if you have not played WE7, the speed is probably not going to upset you.

As for myself, the flow of the game is more important than any trickery, and i prefer my players to behave as much as possible as real players and not as supercharged turbos.

On the light of these evemts, i have cancelled my PES3 pre-order, not becuase it is a bad game (it is, after all, the best we can have in Europe) but because i refuse to let Konami make fun of me and my mates any more.
 

gaza1725

Registered User
yes i can comment on this never beleive a journalist :D :D :D simple.
Ive played these games for 4 or 5 years and im telling ya fact its not to fast and its the best by a mile , after playing this final version i wouldn't go back to we7 although as ive said it is a very good game but things like the week headers ect spoil it a little as it limits ya to playing the wings as when you cross the ball its almost impossible to get some power on yer headers .
I am very confident that most pll who know the games well and have played both will like pes3 a lot better ;).
Also how good is this guy as a player because im fiding it harder to beat the computer even on 3* against a good team than on we7 ive won loads (most) times on 5* on we7 and i got beat in semi finals of italy last night on 3* i think the AI is improved second half they played brilliantly keeping possession and scored a late goal i was a little shocked getting turned over on 3* ill tell ya :rolleyes:
 
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Zygalski

Administrator
tarantino, please let us know who you are quoting and do so in future too. A link to the thread would also help a lot so we can see how the thread develops.

By the way, this thread is supposed to be posted in by people who have the final version only. There is a thread for questions. We don't want every PES3 thread to get filled up with questions, do we?! Let's use this thread and the others for Impressions to find out what people think of the game. Ask questions in the questions threds. Thanks.

Gaza, the patch you got for PES3 just edits the names and flags of clubs and can be done without patching too. If providing a link from lomungtung, please give the full link to the patch itself. Cheers for the info. Keep it up.

BTW, why do you keep mentioning me in your posts?! It's getting weird!
 

Zygalski

Administrator
(from the same thread started by Kezz)
Placebo has the final PES3 too and.....
placebo of evo-web said:
Well so far I've only played Ecuador and Finland, 4-1 against Ecuador, 5-1 against Finland (both wins on 5* of course), unfortunately it does seem easier than WE7, but of course I'm only playing against average teams, hopefully England will be drawn against stiffer opposition further into the Konami cup that I'm playing.
 

gaza1725

Registered User
Zygalski said:
(from the same thread started by Kezz)
Placebo has the final PES3 too and.....
Quote:
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Originally Posted by placebo of evo-web

Well so far I've only played Ecuador and Finland, 4-1 against Ecuador, 5-1 against Finland (both wins on 5* of course), unfortunately it does seem easier than WE7, but of course I'm only playing against average teams, hopefully England will be drawn against stiffer opposition further into the Konami cup that I'm playing.

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I must be shite then getting beat of italy on 3* 1-0 maybe they just got lucky a 1 off :confused: hehe maybe ppl think its easyer because its easyer to score headers from anywhere in the box ??
Im gonna start a world cup with england now on 5* ill post how i get on , iwould have won the world cup just about everytime on we7 so here we go im off today so come on the boys!!!!!!!
 

ed_lover

Registered User
With all these different opinions I think I'm gonna try out PES3 in a shop before buying it. I'm perfectly happy with WE7, and if they f***ed up the gameplay by making it faster and easier to score in PES3, I'm without a doubt sticking with WE7.
 

gaza1725

Registered User
ed_lover said:
With all these different opinions I think I'm gonna try out PES3 in a shop before buying it. I'm perfectly happy with WE7, and if they f***ed up the gameplay by making it faster and easier to score in PES3, I'm without a doubt sticking with WE7.
I still don't know my so many ppl are saying we7 is that good the week header thing in we7 is a big issue to me as it limits the amount of goals you can score from building up play and attacking down the wings.
Anyways lets put it all like this my best win on the league demo of pes is a 3-1 which ive entered into the league fair enough ive heard of better but this was the best i could do and its 100% trurth , so hopefully this explains my level of play.
Ive just started a world cup with england on 5* on 10 min matches i randomed the teams are got drawn against paraguay russia and scotland .
Now remember you can't just go in a game store and play 4 or 5 games of a new title in the pro eve/we series and say which is better there need to be really played maybe 50 games or so to get the full feel of a new release.
Anyway getting back to my world cup first game i beat paraguay 2-1 , russia 1-0 and finally scotland 3-1 (yes i know don't ask how the jocks scored against me a curling lob from just outside the centre circle left calamity james stranded) as least there have got james right in these games :D .
I'll post how the knockout stage go's later but up to now i think the overall game is better than we7 and dosen't really seem any easyer the only reason you might score 1 or 2 more goals is now because you can score easyer with your head (but still not as easyer as you could in pes2 ) a little more like we6 fe.
I would reccomend anybody to buy pes3 even if there own we7 i think after giving it a really good play you will be leaving your we7 on the shelf ;)
 

Dejan18

Registered User
Yesterday i played WE7 at my friends house, the game was aweseome and all but what this Kezz is saying is absolutly BS

We finally got PES3 and played at least 10 matches, there was definatly NO STUTTER on mine old old PS2 that i bought when Tekken Tag Tournament was *new* then you know how old this bad boy is...

The game is just as fast as WE7 the only difference is players like Henry, Owen and Ronaldo (ie the really fast footballers) seem faster and have alot more pace in PES3, you can almost feel the wind in your face as you sprint down with Ronaldo

In WE7 these players seem as if they are just really slow and having a bad day, some would say

"well then if those players are faster then the game is easier for us!!11!"

Nah, you see the comp used Henry to sprint on me and score it was beatifull the way Zidane pitched the ball to him and he just ran really close up to he keeper and just as you thought he would score..he does

This whole stutter thing is rather amusing considering how worried i used to be that i would totally ruin the game, i just dont see ANY of it, NADA, NOTHING and i was actually looking for it. I almost wanted it to be there so those people on these boards and others were right, i dont know where Kezz and his mates see this stutter because it aint there!

I hardly played PES2 actually almost not at all, so im coming right off the original PES that i have played to death and to me PES3 seems like a great step up. PES was very stiff while PES3 is smooth as a baby's butt

Conclusion, everybody but this Kezz dude is saying the game is great, loving it all that even the PROFFESIONAL magazines agree yet people still have doubt...well to each their own
 

GFK

Registered User
Gaza is a little bit overexcited to me, i have heard from many people that WE7 is much better. But also a lot of people say PES3 is much better.
I will make mine own conclusions when i have PES3 myself!

CHeers
 

UberOne

Registered User
It does seem to be turning into a "Pes 3 is much better than we7" and then you have "We7 is much better than pes3" even though konami said We7 and pes3 would be the exact same.
 

KFC Benfranco Cozoni

Registered User
On this one occasion I wished Konami HAD kept WE7 and PES3 precisely the same.....I didnt want even an element of doubt going into buy the game after last years misrable installment (PES2).

Saying that, Im confident that PES3 will be at least as good as the Demo and that is all I ask for. :rolleyes:
 

dannyboy20

Registered User
KFC Benfranco Cozoni, its a LOT better than the demo, trust me. You won't be disappointed in the game i can assure you.
 

gaza1725

Registered User
GFK said:
Gaza is a little bit overexcited to me, i have heard from many people that WE7 is much better. But also a lot of people say PES3 is much better.
I will make mine own conclusions when i have PES3 myself!

CHeers

Gaza dosen't get overexcited matey he tells it as it is and as for many ppl saying we7 is better not many ppl have the final version of pes3 which is a big improvement on the demo and beta release's.
I class myself as an expert in the development of these games being such a big fan and playing them for as many years as i have , im not trying to be bigheaded or anything im just telling it as it is.
When the game is released next friday my point will be proved because anybody who thinks we7 is better after playing THE FINAL VERSION OF PES3 long enough to see the benifits either dosen't understand the game of football or are not at decent enough level to truly enjoy the things that have been bettered in pes3.
I will leave it at this for now but just remember one thing no game is real football there just computer games meant to be exciting and fun to play and simulating the great game as much as possible ;) .
We 6fe was miles better than pes2 which was poor to say we 6fe came out such a short time after but remember there's no we7 fe this year and i think the real fans of these games will go on to like pes3 much better as a lot of people like the jap versions better because of patches , but with 1 small patch already out for the final version lots more will follow .
You can't judge the differences between the 2 untill you have played lots of games on pes3 which ive now played around 50 anyways time will tell which way ppl go :p
This is the last im now saying on this matter in this thread just gonna answer questions in here now , maybe when pes3 is released next week Zyg might start another thread or let me voting compairing ect ect :cool:
 

sebbonny

Registered User
hmm, I've got it as well, but ehm, I play my copies with action replay (v2) but he can't boot games bigger then 72 minits, now I saw 2 files in pes3 image, movie in ntsc and movie in pal I guess, I deleted ntsc, and I can burn it now in 69 minits, hope It'll work ... if someone know how to do this please tell me, if I did it good, then say!!! :)
 
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