fick
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Yep, they listened. The added many things that people wanted, but for me they spent so much time on the extra's that they forgot the core. Gameplay.
As DF said though, it's all subjective. :mellow:
PES 2011: Football Evolved
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Yep, they listened. The added many things that people wanted, but for me they spent so much time on the extra's that they forgot the core. Gameplay.
As DF said though, it's all subjective. :mellow:
Die Hard Pes Fan
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I personally won't be judging on the demo as the demo for 2010 was shit compared to the real think impo!
......they had fans ? during this phase ? ...there me thinking people went to FIFA when pes start doing shit lol . You know what tho, they had atleast 5-6 years of this shitty phase [in fact whole of ps2], we have about 2 comming onto maybe 3[hopefully not]
BLaZiNgSPEED
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I think these points which I highlighted in bold is what's going to make PES 2011 the better game!
Of-course we haven't yet seen this with our own eyes yet.
But the speed of the players movement is crucial to bringing back what PES 5/6 had to offer.
In PES 5/6 it was much harder to run with the players like Messi, Et'o etc.
That's why PES 5/6 were the best games of the series. If only Konami didn't remove the online servers for PES 5/6 I would be playing them all day online until this very moment.
Since PES 2008 we had players running like cheetah's. So basically, what Konami have to really do is tweak players like Messi, Eto'o, Wright-Phillips, Ronaldo, Martin Petrov, etc And not make them run like Cheetah's!
This is one of the reason why in PES 2010 online we see everybody using Real Madrid, Barca, Man City, Inter...
I am always forced no matter what, to pick a big team, otherwise I can't compete with the other Cheetahs.. Nearly every player in Man City runs like a cheetah. Bellamy, Petrov, Wright-Phillips you name it.
If this is fixed in PES 2011 I think we are in for a real treat!
The goal keepers need to be reworked too! We need strong goal keepers and also defenders who are well capable of stealing the ball off Messi. The fact that the ball sticks like glue in Messi's feet is what kills the realism of the game.
I still played over 100 hours of PES 2010, but I am still not convinced by it despite loving the game at the same time.
Those features that Konami just announced need to strongly be taken into account!
Lets see what Konami can deliver this time round. At least I am more hopeful in Konami than EA Sports when it comes to the PC platform.:lol:
shaun7
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Well, like last year I will pass my judgement when I play it and the demo won't be the final product. We need to see a final gameplay build to start passing judgements on the game.
But I hope they are right with those words they said. They look too good. I hope it will be like that because animations and player runs are terrible as of now.
But I hope they are right with those words they said. They look too good. I hope it will be like that because animations and player runs are terrible as of now.
Stormrider
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Good press release from Konami. Will they fully deliver? Only time will tell but imo if they can deliver half of that then we'll have a great game. Looks like we'll have true 360 movement and passing this time instead of a last minute slap on and the long overdue passing power bar. An improved collision system and more tackling styles are great signs. Defenders no longer chasing like rabid dogs. A short term stamina meter so sprinting all game long is now out of the question. These are all things we've asked for and imo I don't find too much difficulty in implementing them.
Of course this is Conami we're talking about and I can understand where all the pessimism is coming from but honestly there's no need for anyone to get their panties in a bunch because there is absolutely no harm in being optimistic in this situation. At this point in time, I for one will choose to believe that Pes 2011 will be the best football game ever. If that is not the case come winter time then so be it, my life will still go on
Comparing a cassette to a cd is irrelevant. What really matters is the content in them. Even in this day and age I'd still much rather play a casette from a great artist then a cd from a really shitty one. The older Pes games were great cassettes while the newer ones are average to mediocre cds.
Of course this is Conami we're talking about and I can understand where all the pessimism is coming from but honestly there's no need for anyone to get their panties in a bunch because there is absolutely no harm in being optimistic in this situation. At this point in time, I for one will choose to believe that Pes 2011 will be the best football game ever. If that is not the case come winter time then so be it, my life will still go on
Comparing a cassette to a cd is irrelevant. What really matters is the content in them. Even in this day and age I'd still much rather play a casette from a great artist then a cd from a really shitty one. The older Pes games were great cassettes while the newer ones are average to mediocre cds.
Dundon's
W.G.P
Well I can't say I wasn't expecting this, no in game footage again this year is the worst thing they could of done in terms of pushing peoples buttons again. They'd of being better off just waiting for something more solid rather than this pile of shite and a book of empty promises.
I'm just hoping the clowns don't mess up the Wii version.
I'm just hoping the clowns don't mess up the Wii version.
the trailers ingame, confirmed by konami. it may be hard to believe, but if you play pes 2010 in broadcast view it looks that good graphically. Also since pes 2008 konami's teasers have been in game.
i think what the trailer shows is how much smoother the animations are and the transitions between them. obviously we need some gameplay vids in wide cam.
EnglishSnake
Registered User
Just compare the teaser trailer to PES2010 teaser trailer and you can see the difference already
Being new to Pes, I first got Pes 10, then after reading stuff on different forums decided to get pes6.
what always amazes me with game developers is how they manage to go backwards, o.k 10 has it`s good points over 6, but 6 has a lot that 10 doesn``t.
some of the things that annoy me with 10 and 6 and need sorting:
REF`S
pes10 not enough fouls/ almost non existent penalties( on ave EPL teams get 4 a season.
pes6 to many red cards
PES10 players running out when going down the line happens far to often.
GK making no attempt to make a save
no handball
probably a lot more
lets hope most if not all the problems are sorted in 2011 and not just pretty graphics.
what always amazes me with game developers is how they manage to go backwards, o.k 10 has it`s good points over 6, but 6 has a lot that 10 doesn``t.
some of the things that annoy me with 10 and 6 and need sorting:
REF`S
pes10 not enough fouls/ almost non existent penalties( on ave EPL teams get 4 a season.
pes6 to many red cards
PES10 players running out when going down the line happens far to often.
GK making no attempt to make a save
no handball
probably a lot more
lets hope most if not all the problems are sorted in 2011 and not just pretty graphics.
byondthought
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:w00t:w00t:w00t
Guess who's back, back again!!
LOL, Déjà vu like a mother fucker!!!
I just love all the old fifa boys saying how they now love PES!!!!
I guess I really did know what i was talking about LOOOL...
:w00t:w00t:w00t
Guess who's back, back again!!
LOL, Déjà vu like a mother fucker!!!
I just love all the old fifa boys saying how they now love PES!!!!
I guess I really did know what i was talking about LOOOL...
:w00t:w00t:w00t
Sabatasso
Banned
If you're not interested in trying the demo regardless, then you don't deserve to get a good game.
byondthought
Registered User
I got a friend in japan who has played a really early code, he said u don't even need a control pad, u just use ur mind!!!!
Sabatasso
Banned
That's a lie, because I had to use my dick as a joystick!
fick
Registered User
In Game Video My Arse..
Typical of Konami to feed us with Bull.
The teaser video was just that .....a video. That is no in game crap. If it was, where are the other players? Even the training ground has players.
Just look how silent they will be for the next few months. All we will hear is just rumours from the brain dead, well paid columnists such as Adam of WENB telling us how "blown away" he is with PES 2011. I almost believed him but just realized he says the same thing every freakin year.
Another "journalist" has reported how awesome the game is....best thing since slice bread i presume. I almost believed him too until i read further that he dined with the fish (Seabass) that very night. I wonder if he was "blown" too. :blush:
Typical of Konami to feed us with Bull.
The teaser video was just that .....a video. That is no in game crap. If it was, where are the other players? Even the training ground has players.
Just look how silent they will be for the next few months. All we will hear is just rumours from the brain dead, well paid columnists such as Adam of WENB telling us how "blown away" he is with PES 2011. I almost believed him but just realized he says the same thing every freakin year.
Another "journalist" has reported how awesome the game is....best thing since slice bread i presume. I almost believed him too until i read further that he dined with the fish (Seabass) that very night. I wonder if he was "blown" too. :blush:
5 years is a bit off. PES 6 (on the PS2) was great. I'm praying this is the year things get back on track. I'm still not fully convinced by FIFA and I don't think it will ever have the immersion or individuality of PES of old.
And if you're listening Konami, please let us move teams in the ML. After all these years it still isn't possible. Once I've built one team and dominated for a few seasons, I want do it again with another lowly team. Oh, and cut down on the regens. I don't mind new players popping up, but not modern day players a season or two after retirement.
CryingGallas
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Need the ingame footage!! I won't even believe what the mags say!