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PES 2011 Gameplay patch by komu

ipeinado

Registered User
AS requested i'm posting this on a new thread.

It is a patch that apparently fixes some of the scripting issues reported, but originally got it because it fixes the "Purple arrows / form" on created players too.

you can get the patch here (PC Only):

PES2011_no_script_AI_by_komu


As i mentioned in the scripting thread, i can confirm that the "purple arrow" is fixed on Created Players (takes a few matches ..but the arrow finally changes to green,orange,etc..).
Also it might be just placebo effect , but i find the game somewhat better, more fluid and dynamic...and my players seem "stronger"?
Also i haven't had any "cheating" or weird AI stuff in my last 9 matches with the patch (10min each, ML)..but again..could be the placebo effect.. :D

The important thing is i really enjoy my game better now, and i hope this guy fix the switching cursor debacle too!!!! :rolleyes:

well..whatever, you guys try it and draw your own conclusions.

this is a note from the guy who did this patch:

... this patch will remove some of the code that decreased on demand (or before games), some of the players stats on certain situations.
The idea of this code was to balance some of the in-game situations but is wrongly implemented and causes annoying "AI "cheating-like" feeling.. (some other parts that do similar functions are not entirely removed in this patch)

Also it will fix some of the "Form Status Arrows" issues mentioned...

Next patches will include other improvements in the AI / stats and maybe we can remove some of that stupid delays/stop animations as requested.

komu


it seems like a "Work In Progress" and i really hope this guy can continue doing this..maybe we all can enjoy a better game!!!
 

ipeinado

Registered User
Well I played one game just now and noticed that my BAL player which has 85 body balance was able to muscle some defenders off the ball. Something that wouldn't have happened before. I don't have a very fast player, but I noticed myself outrunning one particular defender consistently which had a lower top speed rating then my dribble speed.

So I'll keep at it and see if I notice less "AI cheating." Though according to this komu guy this is the real deal!

yeah..i noticed that a couple of times, it gives me the impression that my players feel stronger or something..will test more today and see..


I was going to register at komu's page but it's invite only!
i noticed that too..maybe someone can get and invite for that site? :(


Also, do you think you could make a new thread to keep us up to date about this?

done :D
i hope i can get future updates to this one, but I dont have access to that site myself..:no:
 

Just!cE

Registered User
Thanks a lot buddy. I've only been able to play one game with this patch but I noticed a difference with my BAL player not dropping to the ground and crying like a baby because a guy with only 60 body balance knocked him down!
 

metsuri69

Registered User
I'll give this a shot as well this week, hopefully it does a little fixing, but still manages to make the game feel balanced :) If so, this Komu-dude should step out and receive his praises! (chicks, booze & fast cars that is) :D
 

metsuri69

Registered User
I't like to hear some more feedback before trying it myself...

I can verify that it definitely doesn't do anything bad to the game at least so I'd just give it a shot if I were you. More testers more results :) You can save the original exe, it only affects PES2011.exe file, no other files. So if you want to get back to old one, just remove exe and replace with original.

To me it seemed that at least form arrows were more realistic. My bal-dude was still falling down from the slightest breeze, but he's a twig anyway :D
 

ipeinado

Registered User
I't like to hear some more feedback before trying it myself...

been using it a lot since yerterday and the mos important thing is that I cannot see any negative effects on using this patch..so that a plus for me :D

The purple arrows on created players is definitely fixed. I can use my created players and they will have normal form status (arrows)..Affection points still at 0 (renewals issue), but at least they perform fine in game!!

My personal opinion is that gameplay is improved but is still a very subjective thing to say..but for example now i can manage to do some things i never did before, like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2z1m6-K3tc

before my player will get abused all over the place and stop still and act like he was going to puke or something..


so..for me..this patch gets a thumbs up!! :)
 

ipeinado

Registered User
and just in case someone needs proof of the AI cheating before the patch here is what happened to me (kinda funny tho.. :D )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7LbKuryT50

quite conveniently bojan disappears out of the way just when i was going to score (or at least have a great opportunity ) againts FC Barcelona..

i mean.. i know bojan ain't the strongest player out there but.. either schweinsteiger has a magic-opponent-teleportation card..or the AI just plain cheats!! :D
 

Sminky

Registered User
As a PS3 user I'll just have to settle for Konami sorting this for PES2012 so I can enjoy offline Master League again. Until then, MLO all the way.
 

Just!cE

Registered User
I played a few more this afternoon and I noticed that the lesser teams actually feel like lesser teams.

In my BAL save I play for the US on the national side and we usually play friendlies against some terrible teams. The problem is that their players with stats in the 50s manage to muscle off my player and teammates and out pace us, but no longer with this patch. It seems great so far. And I haven't noticed anything negative yet.
 

Avelives

Registered User
As a PS3 user I'll just have to settle for Konami sorting this for PES2012 so I can enjoy offline Master League again. Until then, MLO all the way.

Although it does beg the question that if some guy can do this in a few weeks why on earth can't Konami do the same and release it as an optional patch?
 

Sminky

Registered User
Although it does beg the question that if some guy can do this in a few weeks why on earth can't Konami do the same and release it as an optional patch?

My guess, Konami's vision of football and then how to make it challenging is not to be true to the realism of football. I won't play offline matches on this version as Pro is too easy and Top Player too littered with anomalies.
 

Just!cE

Registered User
They honestly think that scripting and AI cheating is the way to make the game difficult. I agree it was difficult and made for some memorable games... Memorable games of cheats and frustration, that is.
 

Bite.Me

Registered User
Just tried it.

Played some games and can't really say if it actually does anything....
I haven't seen any downside, so I'll keep it.

Only time will tell if I can look back and mark it as the changing momment.
 

ipeinado

Registered User
v2 patch is out!!

hi guys, the 2nd version of the patch is out:

get it here:
pes.2011.anti-scripting.patch.by.komu.v2

Instructions:
1) restore your backup/original pes2011.exe
2) apply the patch


New fixes in v2:

- Improved AI: sharper and more "big match" aware, less "fake" cheating
- reduced stupid lags when controlling/receiving the ball
- better response

the game should feel smoother and less "clumsy".

recommended:

kitserver/config.txt
Code:
[speeder]
count.factor = 0.98


EDIT: uploaded fixed version.
see quote:

It seems in my v2 patch some people were having issues with the passing system.
It looks like part of the AI "scripting" have some control over the passing , so by disabling it some of the passes will act weird.

I have fixed this, but still keeping the scripting to the minimum.
Hopefully this patch will have the best of the 2, no scripting, better game flow and no weird passes :D
 

Avelives

Registered User
Out of interest does the guy who makes this know of any way of affecting a similar change for the PS3 version? Or is it simply impossible?
 

ipeinado

Registered User
Out of interest does the guy who makes this know of any way of affecting a similar change for the PS3 version? Or is it simply impossible?

I dont know for sure but i don't think so..in the forum of that guy they only make patches for PC games so i doubt they will make something for PS3.
And as you said..i dont even know is thats possible?


BTW: this last patch (v2) is AWESOME!!!
 

metsuri69

Registered User
I played a few games with this new version of patch. I'm very sceptic of this patch as there's so little buzz about it and the patch isn't available anywhere else?

..But still, maybe it's placebo cure or something but maybe the patch does something good, game feels closer to PES2010 in some good ways I feel :) Please patch users keep on reporting!
 

ipeinado

Registered User
..But still, maybe it's placebo cure or something but maybe the patch does something good, game feels closer to PES2010 in some good ways I feel :) Please patch users keep on reporting!

To be honest i'm #1 to be skeptical with this patches but:

1) it fixes my issues with created players
2) i tried several matches with and without patch and there is a notable difference in the gameplay (more so with this second patch)
My teammates react better, seem stronger,etc..i love it!!

but..placebo or not, what matters most to me is...i really enjoy the game now..whereas before i was so pissed with my AI-scripted-ML that i didn't feel like playing no more. :D
 
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