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PES Rage Thread: Rage till your heart's content...

Ali

It is happening again
That's why I always fight not to go to penalties. Several times the AI has saved all my penalties irrespective of which side I put it.

But as much as the AI cheats by scoring impossible goals and making my players freeze or fail to control simple balls, what makes playing this game feel like a chore is how the AI in the ML lines up defensively.




Like its written in stone, at around the 60th minute, they'll line up like so having started out with one of those 3 DMF as an AMF. Basically every team in the entire league uses Liverpool's default 4-2-3-1 which later changes to 4-3-2-1.

Doesn't matter whether they are losing by 3 goals to nothing.
They always switch to uber defensive tactics at 60 mins onwards.
Basically if I don't score before the 60th minute, I'll be in trouble.

On the plus side if I score, that's it for them because I'll never let them have the ball and obviously since they are camping in their half the whole time I can ping the ball between my CBs for the remainder of the game with ease.

Yeah, I hate those uber defensife formations. I was stuck in one of those def mid positions in BAL, and I'm a forward.... a short forward!!!
 

thegame2k10

Registered User
Jesus christ. I pressed square to tackle in midfield and the frigging game switches my player to a defender who ends up tackling a striker who didn't have the ball the result Red card for my defender ffs. Very unfair and it gave the other team the advantage so thanks for frigging costing me the super cup :mad:
 

alexsw

Registered User
Jesus christ. I pressed square to tackle in midfield and the frigging game switches my player to a defender who ends up tackling a striker who didn't have the ball the result Red card for my defender ffs. Very unfair and it gave the other team the advantage so thanks for frigging costing me the super cup :mad:

Isn't it Circle to tackle? Anyways, yeah that happens once in a while. Any idea on how to stop this from happening?
 

Ali

It is happening again
Jesus christ. I pressed square to tackle in midfield and the frigging game switches my player to a defender who ends up tackling a striker who didn't have the ball the result Red card for my defender ffs. Very unfair and it gave the other team the advantage so thanks for frigging costing me the super cup :mad:

This has happened for and against me, in matches against human players. It's soooo irritating, because when you do it, it's ALWAYS a sending off. Ruins matches.

rodrigo_bob said:
please: make love, not war!

Can't we do both? :duel: :wub:

This game definitely goes through phases, especially in ML mode. I'd been having a good run of results, getting high scoring victories against some big teams, then suddenly I lose 1-0 at home to bloody Birmingham!!! I managed to win the next couple of games, but I could certainly see a difference in the way my players, and the opposition players were behaving. Constantly losing out on 50-50s, sooooooooo many blocked passes and shots, countless missed chances.

Why do you do this to me PES??? You know I love you!! I buy you every year!! Well, apart from 2008.... but still, what have I ever done to deserve this from you? I treat you well. Sure, we don't go out as much as we could, and the gifts I buy you are all worthless accessories.... but it's the thought that helps. Without me, the likes of Robbie Keane, Damien Duff, Kevin Doyle would all be playing in De Graaschap shirts!!! Is that what you want???
 

S-D-P

Registered User
So pissed off last night, I got to the UEFA CL final in my ML offline with lazio where I faced juventus. My main RB lichsteiner gets injured before the game, my two other replacement right backs both receive the white arrow of death before the game, so I have to use Alvaro Gonzales(CM) at RB against Milos Krasic at LM, safe to say he embarrassed gonzales for most of the game. I lost on penalties and the only goal I conceded came from gonzales booting the ball out for a corner under no pressure.
 

leonardopds

Registered User
I have finally given up on online mode. PES 2012 will have to improve a lot in this mode as there are lots of issues with connection and cheaters.
 

Joey Tribbiani

Registered User
This isn't something i'm raging about, but something that needs fixing:

The scorelines for AI games in Master League are crazy. I mean nearly every week there are about 5 games finishing 4-3 or 5-4. How often does this happen in real life? Maybe once or twice a month.

This also makes the league table look stupid - i'm 23 games in (the same as the Premier League is in real life) and 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th (i'm top) have scored like 65 goals, and have conceded about 50. Contrast this with real life where the top 5 in the Premier League have scored on average 2 goals a game and conceded on average 1 a game.

In short - there are too many goals!
 

boothy9

Registered User
I'm playing a Champions League where Barcelona have lost 2 and drawn 1 of the first 3 games (in a different group to me) but scored and conceded loads!

I wonder how these background games are calculated?
 

S-D-P

Registered User
This isn't something i'm raging about, but something that needs fixing:

The scorelines for AI games in Master League are crazy. I mean nearly every week there are about 5 games finishing 4-3 or 5-4. How often does this happen in real life? Maybe once or twice a month.

This also makes the league table look stupid - i'm 23 games in (the same as the Premier League is in real life) and 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th (i'm top) have scored like 65 goals, and have conceded about 50. Contrast this with real life where the top 5 in the Premier League have scored on average 2 goals a game and conceded on average 1 a game.

In short - there are too many goals!

I've done many master league seasons and haven't had this issue thankfully.

The game deselecting my player is infuriating, konami need to stop with the hideous balancing acts or what others would describe as bad programming.

Oh yeah stop with the fucking AI interventions, I don't want the game to challenge for air balls for me unless its me performing the input. Know one asked for you to play the game for us and it sort of undermines the whole engineered for freedom tag line.
 

czrvenaeagle

Registered User
I go fucking ape shit when I have two players near the ball and it keeps switching between those two players every 0.5 seconds, allowing the AI to come and take the ball.

My god... I want to cry.
 

shetland scot

Registered User
i had the worst case of rage last nite that i mite quit pes for a long time, my controller is now in 100 pieces.

i am winning the league by 5 points but it used to be 11. then pes decided that i would not b winning another away game all season. bayern munchen came bak from 2-0 to win 3-2. smashed 3-1 by juve. then came the final straw.

i was playing inter milan and i could tell from the start i was not winning the game. sit shooting and bad touches. my forwards are lasandro and rooney both with finishing over 91. but a draw against the european champs would not be a bad result. so 0-0 half time i have 4 shots on target and inter 0. the second half began. i hit the post and bar, rooney and lasandro both miss 1 on 1. but then i take the lead. i try to keep the ball for the rest of the game. then konami hits, micon plays a 1 - 2 with forward and chips the keeper from edge of the box but i hits the post and stays on the line, instead of my defender clearing it he takes a touch and stands still then a slide take from inter puts the ball in, 1 - 1 inter still with no shots on targert. now i pissed off so go for the win, big mistake. rooney miss the target from inside 6 yard box (not joking) then inter go up the other end and have a shot, keeper saves it but even with me pressing no buttons my defender dives in and gives away a pen, i dive the correct way but do not save it, controller hits wall, i retire from pes
 

Ali

It is happening again
Seriously, what idiots at Konami tested the BAL mode??? The AI is so laughably bad, who could ever think it would be good? Did they just think "fuck it, that will do!"
Yesterday, a member of my team scored the most ridiculous own goal I've ever seen. A through ball was played into my box, there was no trouble. Initially, I thought my keeper was gonna come for it, but he left it for my defender (Sergio Ramos... at Bolton.... yeah you heard me!), he then decided to just hoof the ball into the back of my net.... good show. :faceplm:
 

blob123

Registered User
This isn't something i'm raging about, but something that needs fixing:

The scorelines for AI games in Master League are crazy. I mean nearly every week there are about 5 games finishing 4-3 or 5-4. How often does this happen in real life? Maybe once or twice a month.

This also makes the league table look stupid - i'm 23 games in (the same as the Premier League is in real life) and 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th (i'm top) have scored like 65 goals, and have conceded about 50. Contrast this with real life where the top 5 in the Premier League have scored on average 2 goals a game and conceded on average 1 a game.

In short - there are too many goals!

We must be playing different games because the AI in my ML is nothing like you're suggesting. If anything they don't score enough goals.

My latest complete season with Birmingham:



Compare this with last season's English Premier League table

http://stats.football365.com/2010/ENG/PR/lgetab.html

Kinda similar goal differences
 

Joey Tribbiani

Registered User
We must be playing different games because the AI in my ML is nothing like you're suggesting. If anything they don't score enough goals.

My latest complete season with Birmingham:



Compare this with last season's English Premier League table

http://stats.football365.com/2010/ENG/PR/lgetab.html

Kinda similar goal differences

Strange how we can be playing the same game yet experience two totally opposite scenarios. I'll finish my season and get a print screen up of my situation.

Also, Man Utd finishing 11th! :eek:hmy:
 

Ali

It is happening again
Today, some guy told me that he'd pick Man Utd. I saw that he was dutch, so asked him if he'd pick his favourite dutch team, he said ok. Anyway... when we got to the team chosing screen, he waited, then went to Madrid at the last second. Pillock! Luckily, i just had enough time to zip to Arsenal. He was a dick with his tactics and playing style too. Still managed to beat him though. Arrrrghhh. It's so hard to find a decent honest PES player online!

EDIT: I was in the lobby. The only reason I let him play me, is becuase he told me he'd pick a dutch team.
 
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