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Pro Evo 2012 vs FIFA 12

markcross

Banned
fair enough, i apologise to anyone i have offended with my outspoken comments, in my defence i simply view this forum as a place were like minded pes players can mingle, i just cant see the point of people goin to the trouble off loggin on just to slag the game off, its almost an anti-pes forum lately ffs its a game to be enjoyed, if you've had enough of the game and dont like it fair play but why bother moaning just play somethin else.
 

g221911g

Registered User
Oh please. You have said the same flaming nonsense in every post on this forum. Even the pro-pes guys are sick of you. You're simply a muppet, and when you get called out you throw out some pathetic apology like a little boy. Or you threaten to quit the forum like a spoiled child (of course you never do, despite adding nothing to the conversation).

Funny how you can't seem to understand logging in to slag the game off, but have no problems logging in to slag people off. But that's just the kind of ignorance I've come to expect from you.

I've been attacking the game, fair enough. You just attack people (in the most unintelligent of ways). And you seem to have some sick obsession with me. Keep following me around like a lost puppy.

I have told you plenty of times what I think about you and have no further interest in your juvenile nonsense (seems I'm not the only one!).

Do you not see the blatant hypocrisy in moaning about people moaning? If you like the game, go play it. And shut your stupid ass up. But it doesn't seem so, because all you do is troll the forums with, "u suck! herp derp!"

That's how I see it.
 

OCKRASS

Registered User
ockrass and markcross -- Take your baiting BS and ad hom attacks somewhere else. We adults are trying to have a discussion about THE GAMES.

To the mods: See what I mean now about the same 2-3 people trolling this thread?

sup Bag Anus,

You are the one who seems to be trollin bro :blush:

I have tried to avoid your comments at all costs ...since you seem to be retarded.

Its a discussion about Fifa and PES ...so please expect some ppl (like myself) to like Fifa. I know you may find this shocking but most ppl think Fifa is better than PES.

..and you still haven't looked up the word trolling yet, have ya?

I show my Fifa colours ...somebody else shows me some PES colours. Nothing to be mad about!

As markcross also stated ....I have been here since 2004 ..you merely joined in October this year....probably you need to shut up for a minute and give ur arse a rest bro...:erm:

To the mods: Can someone please explain to him what trollin means? Maybe he will then find out that he is the one who is trolling this forum.
 

markcross

Banned
Oh please. You have said the same flaming nonsense in every post on this forum. Even the pro-pes guys are sick of you. You're simply a muppet, and when you get called out you throw out some pathetic apology like a little boy. Or you threaten to quit the forum like a spoiled child (of course you never do, despite adding nothing to the conversation).

Funny how you can't seem to understand logging in to slag the game off, but have no problems logging in to slag people off. But that's just the kind of ignorance I've come to expect from you.

I've been attacking the game, fair enough. You just attack people (in the most unintelligent of ways). And you seem to have some sick obsession with me. Keep following me around like a lost puppy.

I have told you plenty of times what I think about you and have no further interest in your juvenile nonsense (seems I'm not the only one!).

Do you not see the blatant hypocrisy in moaning about people moaning? If you like the game, go play it. And shut your stupid ass up. But it doesn't seem so, because all you do is troll the forums with, "u suck! herp derp!"

That's how I see it.

i give up with this fella, i apologise and try to be polite but still he carries on with the insults!!! i cant do right for doing wrong!!! i am not goin to lower myself to name calling either m8 and i'd appreciate it if you stop insulting me and following me on this forum just to carry out your petty attacks, once again if i have offended you in any way i am sorry but if your just being aggresive because i dont agree with you then tough, if you dont have nothing nice to say then dont say anything at all thanks
 

DIECI

Registered User
Your defense is your ONE friend???.......????

You weren't serious, were you? It's not about being better. Come off it. You're not better, you just know the glitches (and there are plenty).

My theory is correct, and you just proved it. Your friend just doesn't know how to manipulate the broken game.

You are right about the BS though....

oh please get off the crack you're smoking... what manipulation? are you nuts? We play the game to have fun not to out manipulate eachother... I disprove your point because if the game was "favoring" someone I wouldnt be beating him on a consistant basis, we would have more of a 50/50 win percentage. Why would I sit there trying to out manipulate my friend? where's the fun in that??? If playing a sim type game with good passing and teamwork to set up scoring chances is manipulating the game then I don't know what to tell you. :rolleyes:
 

fick

Registered User
Hunter asked nicely, because he's a nice guy. I'm not.

Next off topic post or direct insult to an individual from any member will see bookings or bans as I deem appropriate.

Frankly, people come on here to discuss, it is irrespective if they do or don't like the game. It's a forum. It's about opinions, not school-yard banter. Now please return to the topic as this behaviour only pushes new people with valid points away from threads like these.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
Listen to fick guys.

And fick brother, don't be light with the punishments. I think tough love may be in order!
 

abu97

Registered User
Markcross, do you play FIFA 12?
If you do, do you think it is a good game or has some irritating bugs or it is a crap game?
 

Luisao82

Registered User
You weren't serious, were you? It's not about being better. Come off it. You're not better, you just know the glitches (and there are plenty).

My theory is correct, and you just proved it. Your friend just doesn't know how to manipulate the broken game.

ROFL! OMG... :rolleyes:

Funnily enough, in some other site I read a similar comment from a guy, but that time the bashing was on FIFA and FIFA players.
Even though I'm a PES fan (ex-FIFA fan, BTW ;)), I had to respond to him saying that that was the most stupid and foolish argument I had read for some time, and PES don't really need those kind of arguments to be proven better than FIFA.


Anyway, these are endless discussions because at the end of the day it all comes down to personal tastes. I have a fifa-fanatic friend that have tried PES 2012 in my house.... and he actually liked the game (he didn't like PES 2011 at al, and I don't blame him). But he states clearly that even though PES has some positives over FIFA, he still prefers FIFA.
ON the other hand, I've also tried FIFA 2011 and now FIFA 2012, and I must say I noticed MANY improvements since 2008 (it was the year I converted to PES), and was quite pleased with the new features... but I state clearly: there are still things in PES that FIFA just can't recreate... and those things are actually the crucial part of any soccer simulator IMHO. So I state clearly: I'm not going back to FIFA anytime soon.

And it's not because I'm a muppet nor an idiot fan boy... it's just that I truly think that PES is indeed a superior game, no matter if EA is implementing new stuff to FIFA. PES still edges it for me, and that's that! :cool:
 

g221911g

Registered User
If playing a sim type game with good passing and teamwork to set up scoring chances is manipulating the game then I don't know what to tell you. :rolleyes:

Sim type game?? PES is as arcade as it comes. And I'm smoking crack??

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Ok Deici.

My points are valid. And i'm not the only one making them.

For me I won't eat a piece of shit just because it's seasoned. "And that's that."
 

Luisao82

Registered User
g221, judging by some of your arguments, I would reinforce that you really seem to be smoking something pretty strong, lol.
 

markcross

Banned
Markcross, do you play FIFA 12?
If you do, do you think it is a good game or has some irritating bugs or it is a crap game?

i think fifa has improved alot over the last 5 years but pes has got better and better aswell, the trouble with pes is it is such a complex game it takes quite a while to master it, it leaves you very frustrated at times and although its not the perfect game its as close as were gonna get, pes for me is awesome especially online
 

markcross

Banned
good god man ur pushing this thread on us like a forest fire!!!! i cant help but think theres an under current goin on tho kid, i am gettin a very iffy vibe from u, its like ur tryin another method to get people onto fifa cos ur last effort failed lol
 

MozzyEng

Registered User
He might be the cleaner at Ea Sports after a job upgrade!. I see that Some guy at EA sports reckons Fifa street will outsell pes next year to. Its a money spinning franchise. Anyhows i love pes12, And don't even notice a lot of the things people are moaning about. Anyone use the african national teams? Had some quality games with them!
 

izumaki

Registered User
Im a full PES fan but 2012 is total shit. Just expressing my frustration here! Never seen such shitty football, defenders anticipate ur every moves, playing is not fun at all, Ive already broken my ps3 joystick, threw it against the wall coz I was f** angry...lets not even mentioned the graphics, it pixelate on my screeen. Well konami is pushing its fans away, im going to buy fifa as soon as possible coz I dont wanna break my ps3 or my led tv.
 

MesSI ToXIc

Registered User
I bought both pes and fifa
i played them for a while

PES 2012 is way better than FIFA 12 to be honest...

don't buy FIFA it's nothing comparing to PES

FIFA pays to ign and other websites to get high ratings

I bought FIFA because I hoped it will be better than PES, but it's not.

When you play FIFA there is nothing to learn, everything is easy.

PES takes more than a month to master.

I hope you take my advice.

thx....
 

Macheda

Registered User
Who really cares which is better? It's a personal choice. So stop arguing with each other saying that their opinions are wrong, that's dictator like. I personally can't get into either this year, for some weeks I really enjoy FIFA but when that irritates me I see the positives that PES has to offer and switch, and vice versa. Both games are improving each year, yes FIFA has better reviews but that's because it does exactly what it says on the tin and lets you play football and achieve what you want. PES however gets the job of football done, but takes you on more of a "dangerous adventure through a simple 90 minute zone" But still, does what it says on the front.
 

MesSI ToXIc

Registered User
i forgot to say that it is my personal opinion

FIFA is not bad at all, but i think pes is better

everyone has their own opinion

i'm sorry for what i've said if it was disrespectful
 

InfiniteJest

Registered User
Re: FIFA V. PES

The question of which game is better is completely subjective. It doesn't really matter, in the same way that someone may prefer or like some food I don't particularly care for. The only way I could see this argument played out would be between the two games developers or something (some kind of pissing contest, maybe). I don't believe being only a player (or consumer) of a game gives one's opinion some sort of precedence over another's. Well, saying that, I guess being the creator of game really doesn't either.

I haven't tried FIFA 2012 (I've played the demo, which as okay). But brand (or corporate) loyalty of any kind is retarded, and any video game (or consumer) preference is not, to me, a proper definable human trait or characteristic (and if it was, I would find another way to gauge my humanity. Music and art, e.g.). But if I was to not buy FIFA games (or any other EA game), it would be because of EA's borderline shoddy business and marketing practices. But then again, most corporations shriek and retire to their coffins when hearing the word ethics .
 
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