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Screenshots, Videos, & Much More!!! - Part 1

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Pantilimon

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Yea now I know for sure KONAMI was lying AGAIN.Same robotic animations,same keepers...same shit.Good work KONAMI if I were you I would stop making football games,you have failed every year since PES 5 and nothing will stop you from doing this again and again.
 
Alolo91

Alolo91

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Pantilimon said:
Yea now I know for sure KONAMI was lying AGAIN.Same robotic animations,same keepers...same shit.Good work KONAMI if I were you I would stop making football games,you have failed every year since PES 5 and nothing will stop you from doing this again and again.
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shankly is god

shankly is god

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Pantilimon said:
Yea now I know for sure KONAMI was lying AGAIN.Same robotic animations,same keepers...same shit.Good work KONAMI if I were you I would stop making football games,you have failed every year since PES 5 and nothing will stop you from doing this again and again.
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who are you?
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^WELL, it's clear that you didn't fully review it. It wasn't about animations or goalkeeping. It was about defence, jostling and the new feint system and more movements + power passing and more freedom.
I am not saying these will work or these will not work. I am saying what was in the video. Animations and goalkeeping weren't involved.
Well, talking about animations. See the E3 trailer (which btw is gameplay footage) and then say the animations are the same. Because they're not. I have to see more though but the change in animations is definitely there. But I still have to see more before I actually judge. But to say it's still robotic from a footage taken from a camera and not seeing the proper trailer with gameplay footage is not very fair.
So it's better if we wait UNTIL A PROPER GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE IS RELEASED. Oh and it has to be of reasonable quality and frame rate.
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^In pes 08, 09 and 10 yes. They were totally wrong and annoying. But why are we judging pes 11 now when there isn't even a single gameplay of reasonable quality released?
From the E3 trailer it looked much smoother and weight seems to be added. But again, it's not something I can say for sure. So I think it's best if we reserve out judgements until a proper gameplay video is released.
 
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Pantilimon

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shankly is god said:
I understand you pain but at the same time i cant agree with you! pes 2010 was enjoyable and i still play it with mates regularly!!

and coming out with this remark when pes 2011 is only just in the media is frankly ludicrous
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Good for you,but I hate PES 2010.Stupid goalkeepers and so much bugs made me hate it.Maybe I would have accepted poor animations,but these two things I mentioned before are unacceptable.
 
byrnie05

byrnie05

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Stupid goalies that actually seem quite realistic thanks to some of the stupid fumbles witnessed in the last 18 months.
 
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bennismalls

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shaun7 said:
^In pes 08, 09 and 10 yes. They were totally wrong and annoying. But why are we judging pes 11 now when there isn't even a single gameplay of reasonable quality released?
From the E3 trailer it looked much smoother and weight seems to be added. But again, it's not something I can say for sure. So I think it's best if we reserve out judgements until a proper gameplay video is released.
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This is something we can both agree on. We still have more to see before completely judging.

But for me, its frustrating. Its a big issue for me, and its something I'd be quick to jump on, prematurely or not. I definitely have seen some video's with gameplay, but not 100% great quality. It still doesnt look like a huge improvement though.
 
shaun7

shaun7

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^Animations are a big part for me aswell. But still we have to wait for a proper gameplay video because the ones we have so far are way too early and they weren't to show animations. So it's better if we just wait for some proper gameplay video.:)
 
Amateur

Amateur

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I know animations are a very big deal for everyone, however, I don't think animations are such a big deal. For example, FIFA10, good animations, fluid feel, shit game.

The animations need to improve, that's obvious; but, the real problem here is the fact the we never dribble with the ball when we play PES10 or FIFA10, we simply run with the ball... we simply control the direction in which we run with the ball.

However, we never actually control the direction in which we dribble with the ball because dribbling with the ball is impossible in both PES10 and FIFA10.

And because dribbling is non-existent, this means that the physical aspect of the game is also non-existent, because the game skips the part where you actually dribble with the ball and engage in physical battles with the defender.

And again, because dribbling is non-existent, this means that man-marking is also non-existent. So because Leo Messi is fast and very agile, this means that he will be a better defender than Carles Puyol... because it's about running after the ball carrier, it's not about man-marking the ball carrier.

This also means that physical attributes such as acceleration and top speed, will be hugely overrated. You can have the best animations in the world and it will not hide the FACT that dribbling and man-marking are not viable nor realistic options when playing these football sims.

In my opinion, the actual dribbling concept is a lot more important and relevant than the aesthetics or animations of the game. We need to have a difference between running with the ball and dribbling with the ball... To date, the game is all about running, it's not about playing football, it's all about the direction in which the player runs with the ball.

This is why as a matter of fact, PES and FIFA, regardless of their positives and negatives -- are both equally easy and outdated... it's about running, it's not about playing football.

This is the ''one-on-one'' element of real-life football that we have never seen in any football sim: dribbling and man-marking need to be implemented into the game...

Otherwise, it will always be the same old ''pin-ball'' game. The animations and feel of the game will not fix the ''pin-ball'' flaw.
 
dan80

dan80

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We have seen some new animations shown, like the new josling and the way the defender moves but when proper gameplay vids come out we will know what were getting.
 
byrnie05

byrnie05

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Hmm, in reply to Amateur's post, I see where he's going with that idea.

Pressing L2/LT and using the left analogue could bring about a new close control view, whereby the camera cuts to just behind the player, so you could simulate one-on-ones and then R2/RT with the right analogue could add in skill moves for extra chance to beat your man. Not only would it make the game better, it would also make it seem more like a broadcast.
 
Alolo91

Alolo91

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Adam is hinting like hell over at WENB.

So, how long do you think a trailer should be?

I'm thinking 6mins should just about do it...
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= 6 Min Trailer Tomorrow.
You know, I was thinking, if Seabass saw Messi with longer hair as he has from the WC, how would he look in PES 2011?

Hmmmm.
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= New Look On Messi Or Something Else.

Adam is also hinting about Stadium Editor.
ARE YOU SERIOUS! no way, there is no way there is a stadium editor! lol

holy shit

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Adam: >>>insert whistling smiley here<<<
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:D
 
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