Lol give up son, your losing the plot completely now while embarresing yourself and demonstrating your ignorance. I'm tired of bringing up points to expose your foolish concept only for you to evade them. Plus didnt you say you were done wasting time with me because I aint worth it? This after trying to debate with me after 4days straight until coming to the realisation that you cannot answer basic queries to how your theories will be put into practice. The mods are growing tired of your rubbish from the looks of it, hence the booking. So I suggest you cut out the swearing and fanboy diatribe, its incredibly boring and serves no point to the discussion.
Hell, even my emotionally and mentally challenged patients who I look after could come up with the same 20minute idea'' One would say while becoming excited after being introduced to thier first game on the computers ''hey I got a great idea, this game could be longer and much much more realistic like in real life, yeah thats it, thats how the game is sure to evolve because nothing else will'' And another impaired one would sheepishly agree, both sitting together nodding their heads in unison with the controllers shaking in their hands, all the while dribbling from their throats at sheer amazement of their own deluded sense of genius and behave in a similar fashion shooting their mouths off about fan boys not getting it when you simply tell them their time is up and they are wrong. Even though its entirely expected and understandable coming from them because they at least have an excuse, whats yours?
What I will lastly add, is offering 3 entirely different gameplay modes in compatible to the limits of the processing power of the ps3 and confines of the restrictions imposed on konamis current build and interface along with coincidening with other features of the game is not realistic. This is taking it account that konami work with one code, engine whatever you want it to call it, that has the players statistics on one the same core database that is inline with the gameplay. If in a million billion years they ever decided they needed to implement two different gameplay modes one 10mins, another 20 with different concepts relating to player individuality and team ai, then they would require two enterily seperate player databases to suit each individual mode of players to be inline with the playability of the two different game modes. Bal not so much as it is one player focused on screen which is created by the user, so it would not require a complete overhaul to the control of the ai manual function of teammates and gameplay mechanics.
It would therefore be too confusing because edit mode would then need to altered as there'll now require two seperate statistical database for editing the players. Also you wouldnt be able to make this kind of time setting mode switch during master league, because once the players stats are determinded for which mode you select your unlikely to be able to just switch as the stats wouldnt be aligned with the players you began ML with.
Your idea is that the 10min wont have the newly added addition of realistic features but will be in your words the standard ''ping pong'' ''super human stamnia'' with lack of player individuality that we have seen and are use to in the previous versions. So the gamers, i.e the current fan base who are use to the 10min mode will have to make the sacrifice and miss out on the benefits. In their minds it will be of no sense forking out $60 or £40 (whatever the price may be) if they only get the option of playing the new addition of the game if they select 20minute option which would no longer be pick up and play and time convient multiplayer use with mates or online. But a full on 40 minute time consuming game with the potential of increasing to 60mins if extra time is added on. All this for the simple advancement and I qoute '' a concept where the COM would ASK the user what to do, instead of telling the user what to do. A concept where the players on the pitch behave like human beings, with realistic player individuality, and with no obvious flaws to exploit.''
You propose this new radical change(not) while ignoring the fact that konami all by themselves miraclously without your einstein help, are already planning, and in the process of doing by giving the user more freedom in decision and control hence their slogan 'Total freedom''. btw before you twist things and start calling me fan boy, I'm not saying they will defintely get this right as I dont know until I played the demo. Im just going by their official plans which would contradict your theory that would not be possible to do this in a 10min concept. Konami plans for this years addition involve taking out assisted AI intervention during matches; while bringing more responsibliy to the users to anticipate opponents threats on goals, giving them the freedom to sense and react to threats where ai dont automatically close space and all run together towards the opponent like rapid dogs. They are working towards taking out the automated function of the ai lending you the hand to chase the ball and cut out spaces and do all the thinking for you. So as I see it that will be the key changing how you think and interpret the game on the pitch leading to more freedom of control and responsiblity, if they can do this successfully. Not increasing the game time as its not necessary.
Also your 20minute concept would rule out the younger aged audience, your forgetting children play these games to. In fact if you look on your cover, the age rating is the Minimum age is 3 years old. Now how would you expect an hyperactive child who wants a quick fun game that they can pick and up and play to a reasonable standard, to trawl through 40minutes worth game time? This is not mario, or an rpg where you can save in between gameplayand shutdown and return, This is straight through stuff and their attention span at that age would never see them through such a time frame. So thats why I brought up target audience because it IS revelant, except in your fantasy world of neverland where you simply think something up no matter how stupid and illogical and then its all of a sudden the greatest thing in the world.
Dude, you should really learn how to argue, arguing with you is like arguing with a kid who doesn't knows how to use logic nor how to read properly,
You want me to say that you are right and that I am talking non-sense, and I don't see the point of that, I really don't; I never said that your points are not valid,
What I do find very immature and pointless is that, for some reason, you started responding to me with a very aggressive and childish and offensive attitude; and the worst part is that you don't even understand the 20 Minute Concept... something that you have made as clear as daylight with each and every post that you have directed at me,
And because you don't understand it, you think that I must be wrong; that's just stupid in my opinion, and only shows how narrow-minded you are.
Do you see me going to WENB or other threads telling people that they are wrong and that their opinion is "moronic"? telling them about grammar mistakes?
You are offended when people call you a fan-boy and yet, you deserve to be called a fan-boy because you clearly are one,
Like I said,
You put three different game modes for different people, appealing to a wider audience = more money,
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* 10 Minute Mode
* 20 Minute Mode
* BAL Mode
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You already know that, and yet, for some reason you still come up with a weak argument about,
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"In fact if you look on your cover, the age rating is the Minimum age is 3 years old. Now how would you expect an hyperactive child who wants a quick fun game that they can pick and up and play to a reasonable standard, to trawl through 40minutes worth game time?"
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1st -- the game would be 20 minutes long, not 40 minutes long,
2nd -- what age are you? do you want to continue playing that type of video game?
3rd -- why do you continue repeating the same rubbish when Konami could simply split the game into three different modes?
As for contributions,
What type of contribution are you giving, telling people who don't agree with your opinion that they are wrong; dressing up your opinion as a fact -- what is up with that?
Why do you act like you are above certain people, calling them "moronic" and insulting them as if it actually served a purpose?
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"Plus didnt you say you were done wasting time with me because I aint worth it? This after trying to debate with me after 4days straight until coming to the realisation that you cannot answer basic queries to how your theories will be put into practice."
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My theories are unimportant, my theories are clearly incomplete; my only intention was to briefly discuss about certain things that could be possible if the game was longer.
By the way, you never questioned any of my theories, you don't even understand the most basic and obvious part of my so-called "theories" -- you don't even know how to argue or debate properly,
Konami has 200 minds working on PES, I don't need to tell them how to do it step by step, I just show them a small idea of what I expect of them in the future; they look at it and they think about it.
Instead of arguing like someone who has no clue of what he's talking about, why don't you make yourself more productive and talk about whatever it is you want to see in the game?
This is not even a debate, you have failed to raise any point that could potentially tackle my argument, this has been you INTERRUPTING in a conversation that does not concerns you, and pretty much repeating the same rubbish -- no one is forcing you to read my posts,
If you cannot tolerate different opinions, WENB is the place for you; this is well and truly the last post I will waste on you.
As for MODS,
They can ban me for all I care, as far as I'm concerned I have only responded to comments directed at me... as far as I'm concerned, you have been far more offensive towards myself and other people.
