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The GAMESCOM Thread

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byondthought

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Watching one of the vids now............


Not impressed, where's the 360 gone?, it still looks rigid

And check out those running animations........

Still looks like one man can take on whole teams you know.

What the fuck???

yup i agree, its more baby steps by the looks.....


Better than 09 no doubt but just dont seem to be enough....
 

Perfectstrik

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The first video which is being branded about fills me with hope to be honest, the next two videos are barely visible so I won't comment on them. I'll be merging all these threads into one big Gamescom thread I think and we'll keep all the new videos in the first post as well so people new to the site can immediately see everything. Here's what I have just said regarding the first video though in the other thread which sums my thoughts up nicely at the moment:

"Looks excellent to be honest. Graphically very impressive and it looks a hell of a lot more fluent and free flowing with the new 360 degree movement system.

You can see there is new slide tackling animation as well with a last ditch slide in the box winning the ball, it looked wonderful. Another plus point is the hit detection for collisions looks up to scratch as well, as around the 2:55 mark, two French players collide with each other and react accordingly.

Anyone else notice the nets too? From what I could notice, they looked to be a completely different shape in the sense that they weren't like a box shape, the back sloped down a bit - quite like an old school style of net, and in the video, the net colour looks blue, possibly representing France?"

agreed it looks very special especially the added curl on the long pass and the way players move to recieve the through ball.Also notice the greater freedom in directional passing.

360 movement is something you feel while playing its not always something mega noticable while watching.

Massive improvement to the fluidity and animation though plus its only 80% so theres tweaking still to be done.
 

Rob21C_UK

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Watching one of the vids now............


Not impressed, where's the 360 gone?, it still looks rigid

And check out those running animations........

Still looks like one man can take on whole teams you know.

What the fuck???

The sprinting turning circle is exactly like PES2009 but sprinting shouldn't be 360º anyway. Still waiting to see someone actually play the game properly and only sprint when they're in space.
 

Tech_Skill

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yup i agree, its more baby steps by the looks.....


Better than 09 no doubt but just dont seem to be enough....

You know what, didnt even realise these vids were, till i saw the fifa forum guys pissing themselves at this shit, so took a look.

That 360 movement doesnt look right to me, looks fucking real rigid.

Passing animations might be better, think tackling animations might have improved as well.

They've crammed that 360 in you know, doesnt look right to me so far, still rigid.

Looks very much like an updated pes 2009.
 

byondthought

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You know what, didnt even realise these vids were, till i saw the fifa forum guys pissing themselves at this shit, so took a look.

That 360 movement doesnt look right to me, looks fucking real rigid.

Passing animations might be better, think tackling animations might have improved as well.

They've crammed that 360 in you know, doesnt look right to me so far, still rigid.

Looks very much like an updated pes 2009.

yup, seems like robots again...

its the same as always improved, but nothing ground breaking...

After all the hype bout animations they are a huge let down....

A Jockey button is a must for realism for me now, it just dosnt seem to play like a real game without it...

i'll still give the demo a good go, but i just cant see it being great again(this year)...
 

chinaman

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its a polished turd.

they need to start from scratch, new animations, new ball physics and new everything.

Graphics are the only standout.
 

Tech_Skill

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yup, seems like robots again...

its the same as always improved, but nothing ground breaking...

After all the hype bout animations they are a huge let down....

A Jockey button is a must for realism for me now, it just dosnt seem to play like a real game without it...

i'll still give the demo a good go, but i just cant see it being great again(this year)...

Ill try to take a more in depth look, but talking about the gameplay itself, im actually shocked after seeing that video.

Konami actually had me thinking this was gonna be the game, i always thought fifa would be better this year, but a few days ago I though they had seriously closed the gap.

Some of these vids doesnt look miles away from the 50% build people were slating.
 

byondthought

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Ill try to take a more in depth look, but talking about the gameplay itself, im actually shocked after seeing that video.

Konami actually had me thinking this was gonna be the game, i always thought fifa would be better this year, but a few days ago I though they had seriously closed the gap.

Some of these vids doesnt look miles away from the 50% build people were slating.

I was shocked too, i really thought it would look better.. :shocking:
 

Tech_Skill

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I was shocked too, i really thought it would look better.. :shocking:

Look, its happening again, talk about builds, everytime pes is under par, they start using builds as an excuses, its getting so tiring

From pesfan

“I’ll make a few comments regarding what your seeing.

This is a much cut down version of the game with only 4 teams and lots of other features missing, a GC custom demo if you like.
its showing at a pace far faster than the code we have…make of that what you will.
The game we have here looks better than that obviously the hideous shaky cams aren’t helping, hopefully we will get a better video soon.”

What a joke, when is someone gonna stop lying and just say

"This is what you are getting this year"
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
Look, its happening again, talk about builds, everytime pes is under par, they start using builds as an excuses, its getting so tiring

From pesfan

“I’ll make a few comments regarding what your seeing.

This is a much cut down version of the game with only 4 teams and lots of other features missing, a GC custom demo if you like.
its showing at a pace far faster than the code we have…make of that what you will.
The game we have here looks better than that obviously the hideous shaky cams aren’t helping, hopefully we will get a better video soon.”

What a joke, when is someone gonna stop lying and just say

"This is what you are getting this year"

Maybe they're being honest? We've already seen a few different builds this year, one of which didn't even have the 360 degree movement in. So it's completely feasible that there is a few different demos knocking about. Either way, the video of the gameplay in the first post looks decent to me so I don't mind.
 

byondthought

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Look, its happening again, talk about builds, everytime pes is under par, they start using builds as an excuses, its getting so tiring

From pesfan

“I’ll make a few comments regarding what your seeing.

This is a much cut down version of the game with only 4 teams and lots of other features missing, a GC custom demo if you like.
its showing at a pace far faster than the code we have…make of that what you will.
The game we have here looks better than that obviously the hideous shaky cams aren’t helping, hopefully we will get a better video soon.”

What a joke, when is someone gonna stop lying and just say

"This is what you are getting this year"

LOL, dont worry Pes2011 will be the the best game ever hehe and round and round we go....

It does look better than 09 and im sure it will play better too...

I just think there wasting money on player faces that you only see in cut scenes really and animations that dont look much improved.. they have had the same producers they have had for years, maybe the well has run dry..!!!

TBH i think they need to make a huge investment and bring in some European developers....
 

Tech_Skill

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Maybe they're being honest? We've already seen a few different builds this year, one of which didn't even have the 360 degree movement in. So it's completely feasible that there is a few different demos knocking about. Either way, the video of the gameplay in the first post looks decent to me so I don't mind.

I cant lie, ive seen 2 vids now....

I cant pretend this looks like an amazing step forward, just cant do it.

Fair enough, im sure the user content will be real nice.

But in terms of actual gameplay, this doesnt cut it for me.

On the net right now, the response isnt great, particulary on youtube. (thats being nice too)

After the "gamescom is gonna be amazing" stuff, this is isnt good enough

How fucking stupid do WENB look right now.......

Apparently they were "stunnned in slilence" when they heard the gamescom news...fucking el, mate, when i saw that video expecting great things, i felt like stone cold steve austin gave me a stunner.

Only thing good to come out of this is

1) Evo web for saying a big fuck you and breaking NDA so people who buy this shit didnt have to salivate anymore for the game whilst wenb and konami bullshit people into making them think its incredible.

2) Pesgaming for

a) doing an honest playtest which after seeing this vid, is the only credible one about ive seen.

b) reporting facts, not bullshit.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
when i saw that video expecting great things, i felt like stone cold steve austin gave me a stunner.

:laugh::laugh:

You can't be expecting a good response on YouTube, that's even more silly than the comments on their site. I'm genuinely surprised it hasn't already escalated into a mass racist argument.

Personally, I think we have to play the game to really feel the difference, and for me, the game looks solid, I've always been an optimist so that will no doubt contribute towards my opinions. I even enjoyed PES 2009, so I'll feel in heaven with PES 2010 by the looks of things. "If" online is completely fixed, and is similar to PES6's quality, then I'll be playing it all year round.
 

john4

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meh. dont really want to pass judgment. as it seems to be every year we get a bunch of videos played by retards! they all suck! i dont think i saw one decent bit of skill, pass or long range effort. the people who go to gamescon seem to be the people you play online who just run down the wing and pass across goal!

i really do hope there are a ton more animations, these can help create a better fell and atmosphere in game. i liked it that in fifa you could press lb to tell a teamate to run for a through ball and they would point to the space, just little authentic things like that, doest take too much effort but makes the game feel alot more polished.
 

Fifer

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Am I the only one that thinks it looks good? :S

It's just the little touches, the way the passes flow into the running animations etc. In my opinion the engine wasn't that broken in the first place, it just needed to be more fluent. All I really wanted was a revamped master league and a really good online mode. If I get all three of those (looks like 2 are sorted already) I'll be a happy man.
 

Die Hard Pes Fan

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You know what, didnt even realise these vids were, till i saw the fifa forum guys pissing themselves at this shit, so took a look.

That 360 movement doesnt look right to me, looks fucking real rigid.

Passing animations might be better, think tackling animations might have improved as well.

They've crammed that 360 in you know, doesnt look right to me so far, still rigid.

Looks very much like an updated pes 2009.

I agree with you, they rushed in the 360, because they probably shit a brick when they heard Fifa had 360 movement.
 

byondthought

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meh. dont really want to pass judgment. as it seems to be every year we get a bunch of videos played by retards! they all suck! i dont think i saw one decent bit of skill, pass or long range effort. the people who go to gamescon seem to be the people you play online who just run down the wing and pass across goal!

i really do hope there are a ton more animations, these can help create a better fell and atmosphere in game. i liked it that in fifa you could press lb to tell a teamate to run for a through ball and they would point to the space, just little authentic things like that, doest take too much effort but makes the game feel alot more polished.

Too true, i heard that their holding the international retard convention in the room next door and a few of um seemd to have wandered over to Konami and EA stands,...!!!
 

Tech_Skill

Registered User
I agree with you, they rushed in the 360, because they probably shit a brick when they heard Fifa had 360 movement.

We'll see.

I mean, i dont buy the 'shit players' theory yet, i saw a vid with a bloke passing it around, wasnt horrendous looking, just looked like an update pes 2009, those turning animations are still off as well.

Sorry guys, I cant lie about this shit,

That gamescom shit aint all that.

What about the edit nets ???

Is that in there?

However shit the gameplay is, i wanna try that shit.
 
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