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The Master League Experiences Thread

rebelinho

Moderator
Your formation is very offensive. Why do you need to attack with SB's?

As you might have noticed from the video Fischer occupies the space supposed to Marcos Lopes, and the latter behaves more like a midfielder. As Fischer is marked as SS he goes to the middle almost every time, so I often have two players in the penalty area ready to head the ball. Maicon gets higher on the pitch to provide assitance to Marcos, and Ruben Neves protects the flank. You can see that more often than not Maicon goes to the goal line to cross the ball instead of Marcos. I rather keep him behind to get the second balls.

On the left side they keep their positions much more, so Riise doesn't need to attack as much, and almost every cross is made by Brandt. That game was strange mostly because Riise was given so much space to run.

It goes more or less like this: http://i.imgur.com/k7H3bxB.jpg

Have you ever had 100 league points? :)

Never, I think this was my best score in PES2015 so far.

I've already watched your UCL final match. You could win even higher :) That Goretzka's tackle was cute but yellow card for Riise... no comment.

That Goretzka tackle was the PES2013 player in me saying he's still alive :D

When you score first 3 or 4 goals it's easy to score more.

Indeed, the AI seems to lack focus, makes more mistakes, and kinda gives up on the match
 

Silver Surfer

Registered User
[MENTION=215711]rebelinho[/MENTION] Congratz on your 6-0 UCL final win! Looks like your work in this ML is done. Riise at 19yrs old 88 OR is crazy, I’ve never seen a regen that high after only 2/3 years of development.
I like the look of your squad - very strong. It would be interesting to see how the other regens do given Riise’s development.

I haven’t had much time to chat on here or update my ML lately but i’m in the middle of that player transfer experiment we discussed a few weeks ago (offering one of the lowest ranked players in the game a 25mill contract in January, and seeing what offers I get for him the folioing August) I’ll report my findings asap!
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Just wanted to let you lads know: I'm playing in Top Player, and so far (6 matches) it is undoubtedly the most realistic difficulty level. The AI no longer has superhuman power, reflexes and foresight-minds, they no longer keep playing that fucking possession game when I'm winning, cross much more often (or maybe that's the teams I've played against), etc. And I suffer more goals, go figure.

So, give TP a try in your ML, if you're currently playing in SS. The transition from Pro to TP is a bit too aggressive, but coming from SS this is so much better. Might as well solve [MENTION=228467]dysproz[/MENTION] issue when he couldn't win any games
 

Silver Surfer

Registered User
Just a quick update on my ML...

Results for the end of my 3rd season, the World Club Cup still escapes me.



Notable signings include:
Neymar
Verratti
Varane
Carvajal
and Telles, who is a quality young attacking LB.
...oh, and Bionic Neuer!



Some good development, especially from the youngsters out on loan. Particularly W. Hughes who has just had a loan offer from Chelsea that i've accepted. Never seen a 'big club' go in for one of my loanees before so i'm going to keep an eye on him to see if he gets regular game time at Chelsea.



If I can win the World Club Cup and get No1 ranked team then this 4th season will be my last with Valencia.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Just a quick update on my ML...

Results for the end of my 3rd season, the World Club Cup still escapes me.

How can you not win the easiest competition in the game?

Notable signings include:
Neymar
Verratti
Varane
Carvajal
and Telles, who is a quality young attacking LB.
...oh, and Bionic Neuer!

I can't manage such squad.. it doesn't feel right to me to have so many world class players... I just prefer to make them. But it is a damn fine team you got there

btw that Telles probably is Alex Telles from Gala.

Also, is Neuer a regen? (probably not, but worth checking)
 

Silver Surfer

Registered User
How can you not win the easiest competition in the game?

I can't manage such squad.. it doesn't feel right to me to have so many world class players... I just prefer to make them. But it is a damn fine team you got there

btw that Telles probably is Alex Telles from Gala.

Also, is Neuer a regen? (probably not, but worth checking)

The World Club Cup is like my poison chalice, i'll get it next season for sure! :happy:

I like my teams to be a mix of proven talent and young starts, I also enjoy developing players like Talisca, Goretzka and Zivkovic. You are right about Alex Telles btw.

No, Neuer is not a regen, I'm just staring my 4th season so he should be around for a bit longer.
I've just signed a couple of good regens, Totti and Di Natale both have great stats for there age...hopefully turn out like your Riise!!?
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Totti probably will, if he plays most matches. Di Natale might, but as he is the opposite of my kind of forward, I never really checked his development.
 

CoachBobby

Registered User
Totti probably will, if he plays most matches. Di Natale might, but as he is the opposite of my kind of forward, I never really checked his development.

I picked up Di Natalie at 19 and now at 20 he is an 89. He is incredible as a super sub. Just bring him in at the 65-70min mark and he tears backs apart.

I've had Totti for about the same amount of time and he is an 80.

The best buy for the money right now was a 17yo Garreth Barry. As a DM at 19yo he is an 84 (WITHOUT A FLOURISH!) He has the ability to run people off the ball and is a very good overall DM. Gerrard is good too at 20yo he is an 85. I switch him and Barry frequently.

Kondogbia has been the best CM I have had. Big, Fast, Strong, very good skill up in the high 80s for every stat.

At 27yo Ballotelli is a 91 but peaked there at 28. Lukaku made it to 90 at 25yo. Both offered great stength with different styles. Ballotelli can drill shots from long range and Lukaku is very fast for his size.

For CB, Phil Jones made it to a 90 by 26yo.

For keepers, De Gea is a 94 at 28yo and is a beast, as everyone knows, but for a backup, I use M. Stergen (spelling?) He's the keeper for Barcelona currently, I believe, At 26yo, he is a 90 for me.
 
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rebelinho

Moderator
Marc-André Ter Stegen :D

In my Porto ML Totti was 80 one or two months after "regening". He came up with 77 overall. Di Natale is super fast, but super small as well. I imagine him being kinda like a Bruma, having him come on the pitch when defenses are tired, and just let him run with the ball.

I never liked Barry, but I reckon he's better than Gerrard as a regen.

And to make you laugh...
 

CoachBobby

Registered User
I never liked Barry as a player for City, but in the game at 19 he has 67/67/67 stats with an overall 84.

Bruma was terrible for me, even in late game. Di Natale is not only very fast in late game, but can send beautiful passes. He distributes more for me as a sub than scores.

Take a look at A. Correa. Tell me what you think about him. He's an 86 for me and an AMF, but at the SS position, he plays good as well. He may fit your style.
 

Silver Surfer

Registered User
I picked up Di Natalie at 19 and now at 20 he is an 89. He is incredible as a super sub. Just bring him in at the 65-70min mark and he tears backs apart.

I've had Totti for about the same amount of time and he is an 80.

That bodes well for my new signings :D

I can recommend William from Sporting, he's a beast of a DMC, breaks up opposition attacks with ease and has great physical strength to hold onto the ball in midfield.
 

Silver Surfer

Registered User
Take a look at A. Correa. Tell me what you think about him. He's an 86 for me and an AMF, but at the SS position, he plays good as well. He may fit your style.

Is that the dude from Atletico? He's fast isn't he, with good technical ability for a young age.

And to make you laugh...

13.5 rating for Oliveira is crazy! Harry Kane needs to fix up his act with only 4 goals and 3 assists in 6! :rolleyes:
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Is that the dude from Atletico? He's fast isn't he, with good technical ability for a young age.

Yes, he's the fella I got for 35m€. Totaly worth it, mainly for the super fast and powerful dribbling + rocket shot.

13.5 rating for Oliveira is crazy! Harry Kane needs to fix up his act with only 4 goals and 3 assists in 6! :rolleyes:

It's a bug, he got 8.0 AFAIR. And Kane is just 69 OVR, but he goes way better than that. Fast and powerful, will take at most a full season to become unstoppable.
 

dysproz

Registered User
Hello again after short break. I gave up PES for couple of days.

Started season 2021-2022 with a small game squad revolution. Managed to sell Iturbe (27 m bid from Real Madrid), Fisher (20 m Paris-Saint), Monama (13 m Man City), Adoniadis (don't remember but over 10 m), Martial (less than 10 m), Barzagli (3-5 m).
I decided to sell Iturbe because although he was 'at peak level' he started declining. Fisher also was at his late peak level so both reached their maximal market value.
After these transfers I had to complement my squad. Decided to sign Totti (85 OR, age 20), Nico Olivera (85 OR, age 22), Ribery (82 OR, age 18), Iniesta (76 OR, age 16), Pepe, Kompany, Cavani (16 and 74 OR).

Expenses were way smaller than incomes so now I'm +130 m.

I've noticed that CR7 retires this season so.....:welcome2:

Just wanted to let you lads know: I'm playing in Top Player, and so far (6 matches) it is undoubtedly the most realistic difficulty level. The AI no longer has superhuman power, reflexes and foresight-minds, they no longer keep playing that fucking possession game when I'm winning, cross much more often (or maybe that's the teams I've played against), etc. And I suffer more goals, go figure.

So, give TP a try in your ML, if you're currently playing in SS. The transition from Pro to TP is a bit too aggressive, but coming from SS this is so much better. Might as well solve @dysproz issue when he couldn't win any games

My main problem to win the match is not the difficulty of the COM. I play short matches so have few chances to score. It's impossible to have chances when COM has 80% ball possesion. Why? He simply passes around his defence. Can't understand that. Almost whole match is played on his half. That's why I draw so often. And there are situations when it's 0-0 and COM scores goal in stoppage time. And I can't do anything to prevent it.
But I'll try Top Player if you reccomend it.

As you might have noticed from the video Fischer occupies the space supposed to Marcos Lopes, and the latter behaves more like a midfielder. As Fischer is marked as SS he goes to the middle almost every time, so I often have two players in the penalty area ready to head the ball. Maicon gets higher on the pitch to provide assitance to Marcos, and Ruben Neves protects the flank. You can see that more often than not Maicon goes to the goal line to cross the ball instead of Marcos. I rather keep him behind to get the second balls.

On the left side they keep their positions much more, so Riise doesn't need to attack as much, and almost every cross is made by Brandt. That game was strange mostly because Riise was given so much space to run.

It goes more or less like this: http://i.imgur.com/k7H3bxB.jpg

Yeah, I see. It makes sense now.


Really nice team [MENTION=228218]Silver Surfer[/MENTION]
How did you raise so much money in 4 seasons? I remember that in my 4th season I couldn't afford signing a player whose market value was above 10 m.



And a funny picture:




It's possible that I'll continue my PES break. And because of this my replies might be less frequent. So good luck guys, cheers :)
 

Silver Surfer

Registered User
Really nice team [MENTION=228218]Silver Surfer[/MENTION]
How did you raise so much money in 4 seasons? I remember that in my 4th season I couldn't afford signing a player whose market value was above 10 m.

Cheers, glad you like my team. I used the 8k transfer trick a lot at the beginning of my ML, not so much now though. Also my 'player transfer experiments' have helped me generate a large amount of cash over the last 2 seasons, see my latest thread (Life is a game, money is how we keep score) for more details.

Looks like you've got some good regens coming through, should have an exciting team developing. Bet you're looking forward to snapping Ronaldo up as a regen soon.

Lol at the GK with 87 finishing!! Out of position prospect for sure. :tongue:
 

dattran

Registered User
And a funny picture:




It's possible that I'll continue my PES break. And because of this my replies might be less frequent. So good luck guys, cheers :)

Please, upload more pictures about D.Leon. May be in future, i'll sign him for an extreme foward :w00t:w00t:w00t
 

rebelinho

Moderator
I play short matches so have few chances to score. It's impossible to have chances when COM has 80% ball possesion. Why? He simply passes around his defence. Can't understand that. Almost whole match is played on his half.

Indeed this is one of the biggest issues with the game. I find it to happen not as much in TP, but maybe it's just because I'm playing in EPL instead of Liga NOS. Anyway, wont hurt to give it a try.

How did you raise so much money in 4 seasons?

In my previous Porto ML, 4 seasons as well, no 8k tricks whatsoever, I had almost 600m€. No idea how.

And a funny picture:


When you think KONAMI can't possible surprise you yet again, once more something wonderful happens to prove you wrong. :wub:
 

dattran

Registered User
Today, I found a pretty good thing: when i let some young player on loan, all of them got sudden flourish recently (2 month over new season). May be, when let young player on loan, they'll develop faster, do you think so?
 

Parkinfed

Registered User
Today, I found a pretty good thing: when i let some young player on loan, all of them got sudden flourish recently (2 month over new season). May be, when let young player on loan, they'll develop faster, do you think so?

It can happen but does not always happen. I have sent Ibrahimovic on loan for the past 2 seasons 90 OR and he has not flourished. For players to flourish they need to play well, need to have good match ratings. Most players I send out on loan cannot seem to get above 6.1.
 

rebelinho

Moderator
Almost completed one season with Swansea. I'll update the SOMS today. These are the main revelations:

- Top Player is great.
- For some reason in every ML, mine or yours, Southampton is shit, Chelsea is shit, Man Utd is great.
- Burnley have one their last game. They now have... 6 points. In around 30 games.
- The League has been really interesting. I'm currently in second, and been batling for the place with City since the start. I'm now with a 5 point adavantage over them, the biggest until now. United had 12 points over me and/or City almost half the season, but now started to lost some game and I'm just 1 point behind them. Liverpool have the same points as City. So yeah, this is a bit undefined so far.
- I've had at least 6 penalties against me in the last 10 games. Only one is comprehensible.

As for the team itself...

- Butland is great at "putting himslef in front of the ball", but grabbing it... that's too mainstream. Fabianski is a good keeper, I'll keep him at least one more season.
- Stones and Dier are the main duo at the back, but every time Helander plays he's the man of the match. The best is Stones, he's just amazing. Fede Fernandez will be sold.
- Robinson is great for defending, but somehow I can't have passing accuracies have 50% with him.
- Naughton is staying, great as a LB and RB.
- Chambers is okay, great when attacking, otherwise reasonable.
- Loftus-Cheek is strange, I can see he was potential, but.. I don't know, not quite there yet. Played him as DMF the other game and liked him a lot more.
- Neves doesn't need any words on him. Top notch
- Bought Will Hughes in the winter. Straight to the first team. Excellent player.
- Cork is another strange case, supposedly shit, but great when passing and dispossesing. Shelvey is gonna be sold. Gylfi is out-fucking-standing. Carrol is following Shelvey
- Ibe is great, Guedes as well but is failing to deliver. Zaha is a fucking train, the man is a beast. Ings is useless as a CF, but rather good as a side SS. Montero is very good, will remain on the squad.
- Kane is a true complete forward. Excellent pass, deadly, powerful shot, strong on the ball. My best player. Bought Stremer as Oliveira won't play any more games. On the paper he'll become the best forward in the game (better than Martial or Zivkovic), but he seems to be lacking something. I'll post updates on him.
 
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