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Total Summary of PES 2009 Demo from a veteran..

Tommy88

Registered User
I didnt mind 2008 i thought it was fine, but i play online mostly and it was worst online game ever lol. 2009 is probley fine its just getting bit borin because it feels like iv been playing pretty much same game for 5 years. I want an overhaul or something i dont no lol.
 

SonofRambo

Registered User
I can't help laughing at the fact that people are complaining about the sound of the fucking WHISTLE!

It not just about the whistles. Such a simple thing and they F that up. It proves Sea Bass cant do anything right anymore with this title.
 

SonofRambo

Registered User
I didnt mind 2008 i thought it was fine, but i play online mostly and it was worst online game ever lol. 2009 is probley fine its just getting bit borin because it feels like iv been playing pretty much same game for 5 years. I want an overhaul or something i dont no lol.

I know what you mean. Its still fun but is so last gen with no real innovation. Sea bass has just lost interest. Hes made his money.
 

Hunter

BELIEVE
Don't worry, this demo is not the final build. This was confirmed by one of the WENB people who played the final game in Leipzig. He said that the final version is slightly slower in tempo, the shooting is improved, the goalkeepers are improved among a couple of other things regarding the gameplay. No need to worry, even though I'm loving the demo so far, minus the goalkeeping being very poor.
 

muzza798

Registered User
Whistles, nets, refs, relativly unchanged ML, the list is endless with little things that are so easy to sort out it beggers belief and if he nailed all these little simple things then the whole game would take off and be so much better.
 

Beckenbeast

Registered User
It not just about the whistles. Such a simple thing and they F that up. It proves Sea Bass cant do anything right anymore with this title.


That's a bit harsh but ah well.

I only play Pro Evo with friends, if I do play against the computer, it's only in an exhibition match. So as far as I'm concerned with playing against the computer and it's AI etc...that doesn't really affect me.
 

SonofRambo

Registered User
Don't worry, this demo is not the final build. This was confirmed by one of the WENB people who played the final game in Leipzig. He said that the final version is slightly slower in tempo, the shooting is improved, the goalkeepers are improved among a couple of other things regarding the gameplay. No need to worry, even though I'm loving the demo so far, minus the goalkeeping being very poor.

I so skeptical about the WENB blokes. They always seem to talk things up.
 

DM86

Registered User
I cant see how they can improve it in the final build. They have what?, 2 weeks? Its too late for us to say this is crap, i dont like that and hope they can change it because they've probably got the games sitting in a factory. If they thought about a month ago that this demo was brilliant and that we'd love it to death then im worried becasue if thats the case then they wont change hardly anything. If we had it earlier maybe they could of made some changes.


What makes you think that this demo was only finished just before the release??. I think they have had this demo waiting for a good couple of months now, they was probably waiting for when the FIFA09 actual game was released. Seems funny that after all the waiting for the demo to be released it was miraculously ready, the day before FIFA09 was due to come out. Seems to much of a coincidence for me. Good strategy if you ask me tho. Trying to prize FIFA fans over to PES.... So they have probably had much longer than 2 weeks to tweak and correct underlying issues (GK fumbles etc).
 

ceysin

Registered User
double tap back... so answer is it is in so it cannot be a minus point

I know but its not efficent and useful also very difficult to implement..
on Pes 2008 R2+blind side direction was enough to implement..
By the way on youtube I watched a movie of final build.. Lyon v Celtics.. The game really seems more solid.. check it out..
Write 'Lyon celtics final build pes' and watch..
 

muzza798

Registered User
What makes you think that this demo was only finished just before the release??. I think they have had this demo waiting for a good couple of months now, they was probably waiting for when the FIFA09 actual game was released. Seems funny that after all the waiting for the demo to be released it was miraculously ready, the day before FIFA09 was due to come out. Seems to much of a coincidence for me. Good strategy if you ask me tho. Trying to prize FIFA fans over to PES.... So they have probably had much longer than 2 weeks to tweak and correct underlying issues (GK fumbles etc).

you missunderstood me. My main point was that cos they released the demo 2 weeks befor release it means that they cant improve what we want improving. They have finnished making the final game befor the demo was released so that means anything we want that we dont like from the demo cant be changed cos its too late.
 

Carl13Smith

Registered User
Everything seems to be perfect except the gameplay.

There are new modes, the graphics are tons better, the advertising is brilliant......

but.....

It's the just the gameplay that isn't up there with it.
Players don't feel unique any more and the play is extremely sluggish, plus, "referee's still being as awful" as "Tevez is handsome". All the players are extremely cumbersome and feel like defenders and then i realised (whilst playing with Italy) that Buffon had as much dribbling skill and control as some of the midfielders! (or at least tha's what it felt like). I am a traditional Master League player and even though some people objected to the gameplay in PES2008, i felt the variety in players was sublime! You knew as soon as Castolo picked up the ball or a retarded Libermann, but now they all feel the same!

Hey, i'm still buying PES2009, but i feel they have put way too much work into the new modes instead of making the gameplay what it should be, which is a million miles better than FIFA.

Good luck to PES2009, but it just could've been SOOOOOO much better.

Cheers,
Carlos
 

The Messiah

#1 Troll
the ball , u can see the flood light reflections on that .. and it got accurate shadows when fifa is nothing but a spere taht doesnt interact with light

graphics : this is waht i call True next gen graphics being working in 3d visualization industry for 20 yars . unlike fifa where the grasses are fake , no DOF ( it not DOF in fifa its bluring ) no antialising only the players face look ok. how can u compare a next gen game with current gen . .haha so funny ..

players : most realistic up to dates on any platform.

AI : truley next gen

Enjoyability :

fifa 09 : nill
Pes 09 : breathtaking !


@ some guy , forgot your yellow card ?dont talk like kid fifa fan boy , even grown up fanboys accepted that PEs is best and they have converted to PES. you also join PES 09 as soon as possible :D

I disagree. Bar the players models FIFA is better. And next gen graphics? GTA4 & MGS4 is next gen. PES is still using the same game model ffs.
 

haribo2004

Registered User
right lets get this straight.
fifa is the same old lame piece of crap, pes is the best, the demo is like real life football you have to pass around make new moves etc. that is relestic.

also ronaldo freekicks now haha, brill.
 
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