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I have been playing Fifa 12 recently and TBH, Impact engine is a joke. First of all certain collisions are rugby like, not football like. Others bend like crazy that in real life would result in broken bones. BUT THE WORST OF THE ALL IS that 99.9% of air balls/crosses WILL ALWAYS END UP IN...

Seriously speaking, pes 12 is a good game to play. I again, prefer it to fifa 12 because fifa 12's AI is DUMP, annoying, scripted and does things that you cannot do. Pes 12 cheats aswell, but at least you can do similar goals that the AI does unlike in fifa 12 where the AI surrounds his players...

^That happened in ever football game/ EVERY OTHER GAME for that matter that I have played online. Some people suck so much that the only solution for them is to pick the best stuff, in the case of football games, the best teams. IT SHOULD be hard to beat them with smaller teams even if you are...

I find this a bit hard to believe really. MAYBE it's you TV and some settings that make it like that because I too have played the ps3 version and although it's slightly faster than the pc version, it's by no means faster than pes 11. But anyway, I WON'T ARGUE, BECAUSE I AM NOT IN YOUR SITUATION :)

Sorry to jump in, but what are you coming from about the speed? Seriously, pes 11 was faster than pes 12 in any speed setting. I played the ps3 version, but I have the PC version right now and the speed is certainly slower than pes 11. As for the overall speed of the game. YES, I agree, the...

Let me clear this up a bit. First of all pes 6 WAS AND STILL IS OVERRATED. The problems started with pes 6. To the OP. It's your opinion, and I respect that but to say that pes 08 and 09 were better than fifa 08 and 09 and pes 12 is worse than fifa 12 is clearly NOT A GOOD JUDGEMENT especially...

What camera do you use? It makes a huge difference. NEVER USE LONG camera, use wide, the game seems alot slower. Trust me. As for the overall speed. I do not get the complaints. i am playing the PC version at -1 and it's slower than pes 11 without a doubt.

I agree with this 100%. Just a tip for curled shots 1vs1. Use the R2 right before your player makes contact with the ball and shot with more power than usual, then press LEFT OR RIGHT (1 90 degree angle to where you're at) and it works better, trust me. However I can't let this slide. THE...

This happened in pes 2011 aswell and IT NEEDS TO GO. As for the curve R2 shots. They are better in pes 12 once you master them. I am scoring those beautiful Villa curled shots from outside the box with ofcourse David Villa. :)

^Yeah, in many situations, R2+X is not needed at all. It's all about how you force the attacker to turn back or make a mistake, just like in real life. You will only pressure, WHEN you have your other teamates' support. So unless you have support, do not pressure, but close down the spaces and...

Seeing some comments really make me laugh. IT IS NOT THE GAMERS LACK OF SKILL in this case. I perfectly understand the OP. THE AI CHEATS. DEAL WITH IT. That's the whole thing basically. However, the amount of cheats are to a point where it's sometimes unacceptable. I also agree that the...

Yeah so? Was that it? Do you for a second think that that is a review of both games' goals? In my view, for all the faults that Pes 12 has, the goal variation is tons better than in fifa. Fifa just has more control which is great and all, but the goal variation and the overpowered placed shots...

I play on Top Player and usually pick Juventus ;) But I play with many different teams. BTW, I have found something useful for the defence in pes 12. When you are holding up play with R2 + X and you see that the AI will beat you, press L1 quickly to change the player and the game will switch to...

Clearly, you have never heard of a mode called EDIT MODE :) Seriously, it explains every ability there. As for pes 12. NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE TELLS ME, YOU CANNOT DEFEND WELL AGAINST THE CPU. It's frustrating, annoying and makes me sick to death. Every AI player goes past you with ease, and...

So you're saying that the keepers in pes 11 were better? REALLY? Pes 11's keepers were poorer as they didn't even jump at times and weren't consistent. At least in pes 12, they do save many shots, even if they don't catch them.

Great post. That sums it up pretty nicely. Some people expect the goalers to be like Fifa. Guess what? Fifa's keepers are OVERRATED, very superman like. Seriously, the keepers in pes do make mistakes that they wouldn't in real life, but overall, they are not as bad as some might think...

I agree. I mean especially the fake shot directions. It's dump as it's really restrictive in terms of directions of execution. However, overall, it's much more free than pes 11. I really do mean it. BUT THESE LITTLE THINGS MAKE IT FRUSTRATING as it could have been much better if they put...

Individuality is not lost at all.Yes the close control thing was better in pes 11. But remember that pes 11 had many things that made it loose individuality in other aspects. Let me mentions some. Passing- overpowered through balls Ball curve, everyone curved it the same way. In pes 12...

I want more individuality like pes 11 on the close control. In pes 12, the close control is a bit too good and there isn't enough difference between the players. There is a difference, but not enough to justify it, if that makes sense. The dribbling and moves and the way the players execute...

I cannot say if 2011 was better or not, but to say that it was a slower paced game is just totally not true. Pes 12 is slower than pes 11. Both at 0. Yes, pes 11's dribbling defined players better, but what about other factors? Passing in 11 was too easy, in pes 12, the passing has more...