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^Yep, I can confirm that. IT HAPPENS MORE IN THE 2ND HALF OF THE GAME.

SDP. It's not dumped down. But in pes 11, when a defender touches you, the shot flies all over which was unrealistic as that in reality would depend on the balance of the striker mostly. But in pes 12, I would say the shooting is a bit easier because the ball doesn't fly all over when a defender...

That's what I meant. As SDP said, it could work, but it may also fail in sales.

As I said before, this demo does have flaws that need urgent attention and fixing, but goal variation is not one of them. I never scored the same goal twice so far.

Agreed but not with the last part. Strength is OVERRATED BADLY in Fifa. Strong player can do literally everything. Yes pes needs better strength battles but not onto fifa's level of strength where it becomes overrated.

They do at times, and yes they should do it more, but on Auto trigger run, it's not that hard to activate, however I agree with what you said. :)

Being sold to sony would mean LESS MONEY from the 360 and nintendo players. I don't think so. As for pes 12. It's not as bad as some are saying, but it has some really annoying negatives like the speed issue, close control being too close and not enough difference between players and Goal...

True, because sometimes it travels a bit too slow. And yes, the ball curve is awesome. A truly great positive thing to see. Goals and animations are much improved too.

I totally agree on the way the AI dribbles. It's retarded. The keepers are black and white. Sometimes they're much better then in pes 11, but at other times, they are retarded. :) As for the strikers not making runs. ACTIVATE THE OFF THE BALL CONTROL and the striker will make a desired run...

^You know what's also funny. EA marketing Fifa 12's improved Personality + WHEN PERSONALITY + DIDN'T EXIST IN FIFA 11 in the first place. They are also going for eye candy stuff like impact engine. Things like these blind people because of the initial wow factor, BUT THEY WON'T FIX the...

The point your proving is you being an idiot and an ANNOYING liitle kid with NO LIFE. BTW, I didn't like pes 6. I stated million times that pes 5 was d best. Pes 6 is overrated. The time that post was wriiten was when I didn't yet own fifa 09 and only played it at my cousins. I didn't like...

^I never defended them. At first I always like to see the good and bad of the games, so maybe I was somehwere in the middle, but after some time with them, I never defended them. Oh and about pes 08. There's no contradiction. That goes to show you that I never lie. I was just happy about my...

Then you need to refresh your memory. In 2008, I might have said something about pes 2008 being good AT FIRST, because I was so happy that I got an xbox 360 along with pes 08 that my excitement clouded my judgement. But after buying more games for the 360, I realized how aweful pes 08 was...

@ Makavelian Now who's being the kid? THE ANNOYING KID I must add. I never said anything in favour of pes 08, 09 and 10. That destroys your argument.

don't try to look smart or make me look like a pes defender. I just speak my mind. I mentioned what needs improving in the pes 12 demo, BUT UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE WHO OVERREACT about the negatives only, I also mentioned the positives. When have you seen me defend pes 08, 09 and 10? Never, because...

Slow in terms of reaction? Yes they are a bit, but you have to know that the GK's in the demo aren't the better keepers like Buffon,Cesar, Casillas, etc.. But yeah, they need to up their reactions, AND they also need to make them spill less. That's the problem with GK's in this game. The amount...

^I get what you're saying, but Pes 11 was far from a fail. yes it had negatives and really bad ones, but overall, it was a good game. It was a good reincarnation. But fresh ideas are always welcome.

It's not like fifa, why do you say that? It's more like pes 6. Go play that, and see for yourself. I have played fifa 09, 10 and 11 (though in 11 I preferred pes) and I can tell you that it's nothing like fifa at all. People said the same thing in pes 11 and for me, it was nothing like...

I never cried about the shooting. But it was way too inconsistent. At least in pes 12 demo, I know where I'll shoot. And yes I can shoot in both pes 12 demo and pes 11. And overall, I find that pes 12 has much more variety and the curled placed shots are better in pes 12 too.

No way shooting was better in pes 11. As for dribbling. Press L2 and move the right stick in some direction to perform the standard tricks, and press R2 to slow dribble. The you have the L1 for link feints.