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So there will be a playable challenge training? AWESOME.

I like what they're doing. Honestly. They have new features that will define something and they want use, the fans to test it early and gove out impressions. I think it's a nice move from Konami. So will the wednesday demo have some challenges in challenge training too? I mean from what they...

^Good to know adam. It does sound promising alot but as I always do, I will wait for at least the demo to judge, especially gameplay wise. Actually, I will wait for both demos to see if the 2nd one feels more finished. A few things I've noticed that are extremely positive. THE AI. Both...

No it does not. I can list some great positives and if we're onto shift then all I can say is that you need to play it to understand it and it's possibilities.

^Exactly especially when it's cam recorded.

^No, I think it's more of the players playing the game USING THE 1-2 PASS, because the AI doesn't make this all the time. :)

^Yep. :) Driver is awesome.

^No, both were crap in 2011. Fifa just hides it better, but still horribly flawed.

YOU ARE INSANE WITH PROOF. What you see is gameplay recorded with a camera from a TV. THAT CAUSES FRAMERATE problems which may turn a game faster than it really is because of the so called FRAME SKIPPING. I am not judging, just saying that I need the demo to truly find out if it's fast or...

^I know, I still write ML because EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT ;) As long as this coach mode is like ML in addictivness, then it will be completely fine. :)

You cannot judge the screen from an off screen recorded gameplay because of the framerate. This will make the game appear faster than it is. I thing is for certain. The AI is great and we will have a challenge in Master league FINALLY.

There's also a new video where the player takes Man Utd vs Milan which was the CPU. Man, it looks hard to beat. The AI tries step over, the CPU can stop the ball not run all the time like a headless chicken and also tries lofted balls. The new AI is looking wonderful I must say. I never...

Nice. This might be a good sign because they seem confident. Might be good things but I'll wait to pass my judgement until both demos are released.

All I heard that Master league will be there in football life. I hope they haven't made it crap. :) But I do not think so.

^Don't swear just yet my friend, FOOTBALL LIFE is a new mode that incorporates the good old Master League. Don't worry, it's still intact. :)

Yes I was serious. You didn't read all my post. I said that Milan are indeed overrated, BUT RATINGS DON'T MATTER IN PES. And you can't say anything for sure. ;)

^No I don't think so. I mean Serie A is considered underrated when someone don;t watch it regularly. Milan may be overrated, but the overall team rating DOESN'T MATTER IN PES. ;)

It's great that they showed the new features in a trailer. Looks good so far :)

What's wrong with the italian teams? As for the game. The shooting seems better than the previous builds. I like that but I hope that they haven't simplified it too much, though in pes 11 it was a bit TOO unpredictable. I want more control.

Pretty nice faces. They look great TBH, but where are the serie A players? matri for example? I hope to see more. :)