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Indeedy, the AI in ML is a bloody shambles but PES2011 is saved by MLO which is seemingly addictive beyond reason ...but... you'll have every fan boy leaping to attention with your remarks, you'll be accused of being a 'FIFA lover' or someone who is 'yet to learn the game' ... I can't wait! :)

Cheers chap, you're right a stat like that would see say for example Jermain Defoe score a shed load of goals against weaker opposition but be off the boil against say a Man Utd or a Chelsea.

He should get a 6 for condition but a 5 for consistency (if such a stat existed).

(laughing) You're off your head ... NURSE! OCKRASS has got out of his room again!

Welcome to PESgaming! This is tame compared to other threads .... best get used to it!

Yes but injury proneness affects the likelihood of being injured and amount of games missed. Players like Gerrard and Drogba tend to pick up niggling injuries but are still able to play games with varying performances. That isn't an option within PES, its either injured during a match -...

Seriously, OCKRASS, no-one is interested in your inexorable peddling of this malignant tosh.

Spot on, 8 condition should be for players who consistently perform, but it should be regardless of their ability. Ian Holloway said of his time as a footballer that although he wasn't the best by a million miles he always put a shift in for his team (especially for the Superhoops). In my eyes...

Still a good player though in PES terms. We need a thread for "Shat stats - but always reliable"

If we're talking less than brilliant players, and I call that players who play well with less than 75 for overall, then for me on MLO it has to be Fetfatzidis and Salvio, cheap as chips and always played better than their stats. EDIT: Juan Mata isn't a less than brilliant player, he is a...

Say Whaaaaaaaat?!? 'Andrei Arshavin, PES2011 and reasonable stats' are not words that should be included in one sentence. People accept over the top stats for players Like Cristiano Ronaldo, but not Arshavin, you as an Arsenal fan should know how much of a 'fair weather' player he is. I've...

Aye, condition. Condition covers his form from one match to the next and how fit he is and ask any Arsenal fan, he's not the kind of player to hang your hat on for game to game form. If anyone ever deserved an 8 for condition it was Pavel Nedved. Few players truly deserve 8 now as it really is...

Think this has probably gone as far as it can in terms of content ... maybe we should all move onto another topic. Feel free to have a pop at me if you want but I think this thread has probably run its course.

He's certainly a good player but a little inconsistent ... not the sort to relish a rough away day at Blackburn Rovers.

I flagged this on another thread. Arshavin has an 8 for form on PES2011 yet he had '4' for form on previous games, last season he wasn't pulling up any trees at Arsenal with his form so how did Konami arrive at 8 for form? Ignore the fact he is quick with good dribbling, thats not in...

Holding L2 increases the chances of your player holding onto the ball as does using the right analogue stick ... but ... there isn't a guaranteed way to hold off defenders. On MLO you will see games where central midfield becomes a total dog fight, you don't even have time to try and slow...

Those rainbow flicks are ridiculous, some many people use them on MLO.

The cursor issue is being looked into currently but I'd be surprised if they totally fix it. I'm finding the way defenders react to through balls frustrating, I've had defenders step away from them or not react at all. The best thing to do is to predict where they will go and use slide tackle to...

I'd love to mate but I couldn't play tonight, I was up until 1am playing it and I'm exhausted! You about this weekend?

I think alot of the arguing can be put down to bravado and banter, in some ways like going to watch an actual match where the fans taunt and deride each other. In fact I was doing the same myself when I watched QPR beat Reading a couple of weeks ago, its football, it just brings the best and...