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byondthought

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The BAP of fifa is annoying me. Its fun to play but my player is constantly tired after 10 mins even though ive bumped his stamina guage up to 80 from like in the 60s. Great game thoug. Ive lost my online recently so offline has had to hold the fort and it has done so superbly.

i just cant be believe how much fun im having playing the cpu..!!! i would never rate pes on playing the cpu, it was all about playing people...

and then playing the right people on fifa for me is just unparalleled to any other football game...!! when your shoulder to shoulder in the game it feels like your really pushing at each other..!!

hey trigglebeef, will you be using manual shooting for the champions league comp..??? which reminds me i need to stop playing bap and get practicing.
 

trigglebeef

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i just cant be believe how much fun im having playing the cpu..!!! i would never rate pes on playing the cpu, it was all about playing people...

and then playing the right people on fifa for me is just unparalleled to any other football game...!! when your shoulder to shoulder in the game it feels like your really pushing at each other..!!

hey trigglebeef, will you be using manual shooting for the champions league comp..??? which reminds me i need to stop playing bap and get practicing.

If i play manual on that i'll get dicked on. I'm not good enough at it yet, although i can't see manual shooting ever being an advantage over assisted. Manual's purely for use against the CPU or other people using manual. If whoever i face wants to do it in this CL then i'm up for it, otherwise I'll just use manual crossing/lobbed passing.
 

byondthought

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If i play manual on that i'll get dicked on. I'm not good enough at it yet, although i can't see manual shooting ever being an advantage over assisted. Manual's purely for use against the CPU or other people using manual. If whoever i face wants to do it in this CL then i'm up for it, otherwise I'll just use manual crossing/lobbed passing.

are you guys on EA football world?? im trying to find out where my uploaded goals go..!!
 

jenicek68

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also i got problem with one thing.. When I put fifa on 360, firstly it's looking fine, but then when i press start on first menu, it gets so grey.. Why is that? Every other game works just fine.. I was looking truth the menus but cant find any switch in the game.. Any suggests?
 

muzza798

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also i got problem with one thing.. When I put fifa on 360, firstly it's looking fine, but then when i press start on first menu, it gets so grey.. Why is that? Every other game works just fine.. I was looking truth the menus but cant find any switch in the game.. Any suggests?

Your TV?. I havnt noticed anything like that on my 360.
 

jenicek68

Registered User
muzza> I had to play with in gamma in match.. For some reason in Main menu.


Now I am going to say something, what is really hearts me, but have to do that.. I have tryed to deffend PES, but to discover FIFA.. The difference between theese two games is really massive.. FIFA is just really like real football.. It took me over month of everyday playing to get used to control, but finaly I am there.. I feel that FIFA is really something, what was before called PES.. I got problems with goalscoring, but it will take more time to learn ( same as it used to be in PES ).. So I am giving up, are you happy now beyondthaught?? :)))
 

dan80

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the thing about fifa is its really realistic gameplay graphic wise but i like to do manager mode and when its the same every year it gets boring not to say that pes master league is the same every year but in fifa in MM there is the same weather every game always sunny unless u maunal change it so that takes the realism out for me every game sort of feels the same u cant tell if your in a cup game or a league game and like in goals scored they dont have seprate ones if u score 10 goals in the champions league it will be added to the premier league i did a season where im manutd and berbatov scored about 30 goals in a season avrage for a striker then i see who is top of that drogba with 54 goals i was like come one get real. and some gamplay things is the unrealistic curl on the ball thats just ridicious but the game does have is really good points the same as pes but if ur gonna say which game has progressed the most it will haft to be fifa
 

Tech_Skill

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the thing about fifa is its really realistic gameplay graphic wise but i like to do manager mode and when its the same every year it gets boring not to say that pes master league is the same every year but in fifa in MM there is the same weather every game always sunny unless u maunal change it so that takes the realism out for me every game sort of feels the same u cant tell if your in a cup game or a league game and like in goals scored they dont have seprate ones if u score 10 goals in the champions league it will be added to the England League i did a season where im manutd and berbatov scored about 30 goals in a season avrage for a striker then i see who is top of that drogba with 54 goals i was like come one get real. and some gamplay things is the unrealistic curl on the ball thats just ridicious but the game does have is really good points the same as pes but if ur gonna say which game has progressed the most it will haft to be fifa

Oh yeah, FIFA aint perfect by any strech, there are a few dum things that needs changing, now apparently a patch is coming out to allow you to change Kit numbers in Manager Mode, but you are right, there are some silly things of the kind you mentioned which really need changing. The Curl isnt as bad for me once i took it off assisted, but maybe thats me.

The weather in manager mode is gay as hell, however the computer did make alot of my games in the second half of the season in dusk without me having to do that silly get around.

Yup you are totally right, FIFA needs tweaking quite a bit in certain areas. I wanna see those changes happen, however my main priority is the gameplay, and FIFA's gameplay is hands down the best imo.

But I hope EA listen to the fans again this year, there are feedback forms available apparently and the reps have specific improvement threads so we can only hope.
 

dan80

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yeh i seen EA they have there own fourms saying what do want in next years game they wanna see what the fans want i think konami are only starting to do this
 

byondthought

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muzza> I had to play with in gamma in match.. For some reason in Main menu.


Now I am going to say something, what is really hearts me, but have to do that.. I have tryed to deffend PES, but to discover FIFA.. The difference between theese two games is really massive.. FIFA is just really like real football.. It took me over month of everyday playing to get used to control, but finaly I am there.. I feel that FIFA is really something, what was before called PES.. I got problems with goalscoring, but it will take more time to learn ( same as it used to be in PES ).. So I am giving up, are you happy now beyondthaught?? :)))

:eek:k: The more pes fans that play the better, we're the kind of players that can improve it even more..!!!
 

jenicek68

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the thing about fifa is its really realistic gameplay graphic wise but i like to do manager mode and when its the same every year it gets boring not to say that pes master league is the same every year but in fifa in MM there is the same weather every game always sunny unless u maunal change it so that takes the realism out for me every game sort of feels the same u cant tell if your in a cup game or a league game and like in goals scored they dont have seprate ones if u score 10 goals in the champions league it will be added to the England League i did a season where im manutd and berbatov scored about 30 goals in a season avrage for a striker then i see who is top of that drogba with 54 goals i was like come one get real. and some gamplay things is the unrealistic curl on the ball thats just ridicious but the game does have is really good points the same as pes but if ur gonna say which game has progressed the most it will haft to be fifa

I am not home yet, but which sort of weather you can put in the game? I mean DAY, NIGHT, SUMMER, WINTER, RAINY, etc.


Beyondthaught: But could u do me a favor and swap that Gascoine for someone else? :)
 

dan80

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I am not home yet, but which sort of weather you can put in the game? I mean DAY, NIGHT, SUMMER, WINTER, RAINY, etc.


Beyondthaught: But could u do me a favor and swap that Gascoine for someone else? :)

basicly u go to a friendly match select the weather which is only day dusk overcast or night and then exit the friendly match go back to MM and it should have changed but that what u haft to do every time u wanna change weather plus there is no snow or rain only in a friendly match
 

S-D-P

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I agree with quite a few things said above, particular about the EA reps, ive seen their feedback thread for FIFA 09, it seems they actually give a shit about what the fans want.

One thing that hasnt been mentioned about FIFA, is the home and away games. Being home means something, your team settles down quicker, gets momentum quicker and the opposition are wary of the home advatange and wont be as quick to commit men forward at the time at they might be at home. Away from home sometime you have to work harder to estiblish a rythym in the oppositions backyard and they really pass and play with a little more confidence in my eyes. Sometimes during an away game you will have to sit back defend and take your chances when they come.

And FIFA is by far the deeper game in terms of gameplay, how can it not be? There are more possibilities in terms of shooting passing and build up, and proper midfield battles. You cant just step off pro and cane fifa, especially if your pes game was based on run run run or exploiting cack AI gliches.

i have noticed this, when i am away from home i play the counter attack solely by the way i pass the ball(manual allows you to do this). There is no question about which game is deeper. I also like the fact in fifa defending is as crucial as attacking, especially on legendary when the computer can keep the ball for fun.
 

byondthought

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i have noticed this, when i am away from home i play the counter attack solely by the way i pass the ball(manual allows you to do this). There is no question about which game is deeper. I also like the fact in fifa defending is as crucial as attacking, especially on legendary when the computer can keep the ball for fun.

yeah, a complete game of football, defending is just as important...it can be hard work too, its mad.. when you know you have/just lost the ball you need to switch to defensive mode or you will get caught out..!!
 

scoles_1

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ok i`ll explain

when playing pes i like to pass ,my passing rate is around 85% ,naturally when i played fifa i played the same ,now to pass through pes i find i need to pass to work an angle to release players for their on game runs and sometimes the ball is played just behind the player running,but when playing fifa ,i could break up the opposistion and put together six passes with quite easily ,and all were to feet no miscontrols nothing,even with newcastle ,now i could go on and say i played the whole afternoon like this with every pass being perfect and every player was in posistion to receive it but i would only bore you but for me thats where the game lacked depth and yes i did play it on noob shooting but getting their wasnt a problem

now dont get me wrong fifa is an excellent game the same reason i just stated is its appeal any noob can pick it up and play good stuff ,it does play very well ,its very fluent and i do agree with so many points raised in the latter posts too ,fifa has taken some elements of what made pes good and incoporated them to their own brand almost like PES6 and for that reason makes fifa more fun to play ,both are easy to learn ,hard to master ,PES is more rewarding but fifa brings a smile to your face quicker

both games are fantastic ,but both have their let downs and thats before someone mentions online they are both simulating football but both uniquely different ,it is a matter of prefference

but as to which one is better if i was playing a noob id play fifa ,if i was playing a pro i would quite obviously play pro



Sounds like you were playing on assissted. . . . switch to manual, passes have to be directed, powered and timed perfectly or they aren't going where you want them! this is is where you then have to work for the right opening cos its easy to givethe ball away, you need to make sure you have the time to pick the pass etc it really is very realistic. I do agree on assissted and even to an extent semi (althoough not as much as you have said) the passing can be very easy and all you really need to do is press pass however on manual this really isnt the case. . . try it
 

jenicek68

Registered User
Sounds like you were playing on assissted. . . . switch to manual, passes have to be directed, powered and timed perfectly or they aren't going where you want them! this is is where you then have to work for the right opening cos its easy to givethe ball away, you need to make sure you have the time to pick the pass etc it really is very realistic. I do agree on assissted and even to an extent semi (althoough not as much as you have said) the passing can be very easy and all you really need to do is press pass however on manual this really isnt the case. . . try it


Well, i was playing whole afternoon again.. And i just discovered that it is more easy to play on manual.. Game is listening more.. Now i play for Arsenal, 6min half, Slow speed, on Proffesional, Shooting manual, Passing manual, through pass manual and finaly start to score some goals.. My deffence was warking well from the start, but attack was a bit weaker.
 

trigglebeef

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World class on manual is where it really starts to become a challenge. Most my goals are coming from long balls to Adebayor, who knocks them down to Arshavin or Walcott, who race down the wing and whip it in for RVP to pop home. I just find direct footy the only way to go when trying to break down the lower teams who play very compact defensively. When it comes to playing United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs etc though, i have right barn stormers with some beautiful passages of play.
 
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