Team PESGaming (PS3) (FIFA 10)
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Yeah I know :faceplm: - there was a particular highlight inside the opposition 18-yard box where I was thinking "he's out of options because I can't get back onside - oh fuck".
I've been saying it a fair bit lately and I'm not going to let it drop as I do believe I'm right - we should be playing 4-3-1-2 and not 4-3-2-1. The latter suits Barn as a focal point and Original? likes it as he can play deeper but I don't believe we're clinical enough. We make chances but a lot of them are crosses...our collective crossing is suspect and a good chunk of our finishing from crosses is as well (still not a fan of the heading model).
4-3-1-2 encourages less crossing and more ground passing which we're better at. That said, I'm wondering if its worth trying 4-2-3-1 as a happy medium where Original? can play in a deep left-sided role, I can still be a central playmaker of sorts and Barn can be a lone striker with supporting runners. Might keep me onside too! I'll just need to sit back a tad more than 4-3-1-2.
Neo
First It Giveth
This I like the sound of, ANY would be able to coordinate the entire defensive half of the team with more accuracy. Two pacemen either side of Barn and a playmaker just behind him, a flawless idea in my opinion.
BarnDoor
Witchfinder General
The problem is that I think - and I'm not being big headed here, just my perspective of things - my VP might be the best crosser on the team. Original and Sweey, I don't know how many crossing accomplishments you have (I think I have all of them), but perhaps you could try and work on them a bit offline. I'm going to try and get my balance up so maybe I'll shrug people off better.
I'm pretty sure that's accurate Barn, from what I've seen anyway and that's how the shit has gone down in the FM 2010 database I've created. I'm not sure I have more than about two crossing accomplishments and from what I've seen you are indeed the best crosser on the team but having me or Original? on the end of your crosses isn't great as we're neither brilliant at heading nor overly tall.
I don't have too much trouble knocking the ball on from goal kicks but headers inside the area are less successful though I did score one from a cross by you last night (in a 4-3-1-2 I think).
I just tried 4-2-3-1 in a Milan-Le Mans game and quite enjoyed it. It classes the front four positions as RAM, LAM, CF (all in a line) and ST.
I don't have too much trouble knocking the ball on from goal kicks but headers inside the area are less successful though I did score one from a cross by you last night (in a 4-3-1-2 I think).
I just tried 4-2-3-1 in a Milan-Le Mans game and quite enjoyed it. It classes the front four positions as RAM, LAM, CF (all in a line) and ST.
Original?
istrator
My crossing statistic is around 90, to be honest a lot of my crosses are in the right area for you to challenge. You're never going to get on the end of every single one though. The other problem is that it's often 3-4:1 when I'm crossing the ball to you.
I'd also ask that you don't cross me the ball, it's rather pointless and 9 times out of 10 it's just going to hand possession over to our opponent.
Sweey, 4-2-3-1 is a nuisance as LAM is quite different to LF. I'd be expected to do a lot more tracking back and defensive work which I'm frankly pretty pish at. I don't think anything can be pinned on the choice of formation last night, toward the end of the night I don't think anyone covered themselves in glory. I think I played the game far too long last night, by the end I couldn't finish to save my life whereas at the beginning of the night I was scoring in every game at least.
Can we create our own formation?
It's not my heading statistic... I just can't work out the heading system, it seems rather erratic at best.
We can make one offline Original? - we can always take the LF and ST from 4-3-2-1, take the CF from 4-3-1-2 and then do something with the right (the three man midfield with the right midfielder advanced or leave the right alone and I'll have to move out there occasionally). I'm not someone who believes a formation must be symmetrical.
We can't share the formation though, so whoever makes it has to be the first one in the room.
We can't share the formation though, so whoever makes it has to be the first one in the room.
Original?
istrator
I agree, symmetry isn't necessary. Not being able to share the formation might be a stumbling block.
----CB---CB----
-RB---------LB-
-----DM--------
---------CM----
-RM------------
------CF-------
-----------LF--
-------ST------
The there would be that much space between the midfield, I only used separate lines to indicate that the position weren't level with each other.
If we've all got to make it lets say:
-Take a 4-3-2-1
-Move the RF directly inside to a CF position, in line with the ST.
That's definite. Then we need to decide if we drop the central of the three midfielders back and if so how many times you press the direction and if we move the right midfielder forward and if so how many times one presses that direction. We could leave the midfield alone entirely and just see what happens. At CF I tend to drift to the wings anyway, it just means I need not drift to the left in this formation because you're already there.
Dragonfly
Waiting....
I've also been thinking of us having a custom formation, with everyone saving it. I think the one Original? suggested would work well. Use the 4-3-2-1 formation, move the RF inwards to CF and move the RCM forward a bit and change his role to either RM or RAM. Or:
---------------GK---------------
-----------RCB----LCB----------
RWB-------------------------LWB
----------RDM-----LDM----------
---------------------------------
---RF---------CF----------LF----
--------------ST-----------------
I used this on FIFA09 in a PESManiacs league as Hoffenheim and it proved very successful, with me conceding very little, but scoring tonnes. Berry can corroborate this. Maybe have full-backs rather than wing-backs, though.
---------------GK---------------
-----------RCB----LCB----------
RWB-------------------------LWB
----------RDM-----LDM----------
---------------------------------
---RF---------CF----------LF----
--------------ST-----------------
I used this on FIFA09 in a PESManiacs league as Hoffenheim and it proved very successful, with me conceding very little, but scoring tonnes. Berry can corroborate this. Maybe have full-backs rather than wing-backs, though.
The above is just a 4-2-3-1 with wing-backs and the wide players changed to LF and RF from LAM and RAM (and advanced if necessary)
Dragonfly
Waiting....
Exactly, a more attacking version. I was taking your point in a previous post where you mentioned a lot of the top club teams tend to play a lot of forwards and that our strength is in attack, along with Original?'s preference to play as LF rather than LAM. Why not just bomb the opposition (and defend from the front). I also thinking about changing one of the DMs to CM. I had the following line up in mind:
---------------GK---------------
---------Berry----Miggy---------
RWB-------------------------Phat
----------Mullet------------------
-----------------Dragonfly--------
-Fabio--------Sweey-----Original?-
--------------BarnDoor------------
Although, we rarely play with that many on at a time.
---------------GK---------------
---------Berry----Miggy---------
RWB-------------------------Phat
----------Mullet------------------
-----------------Dragonfly--------
-Fabio--------Sweey-----Original?-
--------------BarnDoor------------
Although, we rarely play with that many on at a time.
Original?
istrator
I like the look of that formation that Dragonfly has suggested.
This is true, we'd need the midfielders to be very disciplined.
This is true, we'd need the midfielders to be very disciplined.
I'll try and make two before I get online this evening:
A 4-3-2-1 where RF has moved to CF (no other changes)
A 4-2-3-1 where LAM and RAM become LF and RF (and are moved forward if that is necessary to get the role options)
If everyone else can do the same (those who go in the room first) then when we say 4321 or 4231 as the preferred formation we can go with the custom versions.
A 4-3-2-1 where RF has moved to CF (no other changes)
A 4-2-3-1 where LAM and RAM become LF and RF (and are moved forward if that is necessary to get the role options)
If everyone else can do the same (those who go in the room first) then when we say 4321 or 4231 as the preferred formation we can go with the custom versions.
Bež
Registered User
Looks good to me, Dragonfly. When there is a lot of us online, then I shall play centre-back. I got annoyed while playing centre-mid last night though - the opposition were very good last night, and I found it hard to keep up, and was out of position a lot as possession was changing a lot. Sometimes when I commit to helping the forwards in an attack, it can result in the other team hitting us on the counter and I feel responsible. It's a funny situation; I like being a box-to-box midfielder, however I'm not brilliant there.
I'm not sure which formation we should play with, I'll leave that to you guys... the idea of making our very own tactic interests me though.
I tend to do that :laugh: :ninja:
I'm not sure which formation we should play with, I'll leave that to you guys... the idea of making our very own tactic interests me though.
I tend to do that :laugh: :ninja: