Advanced Formations (Images)
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kingersalad
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dazmister said:
That sounds a bit ironic, really. I explained the best I could with words... I don't know how to make pictures.
Anyway, I made a mistake saying A A A A... I actually have counterattack at C.
Now I varied it a bit more with more of a parallel midfield line of four just about at exactly midfield. The DM a little behind and CM slightly ahead. And then one more CM/AM in the middle ahead of them. Sometimes I move that attacking CM/AM to CF, to play two CFs side by side.
I think the important thing of it is the very high 4 man back line with offiside trap, and 5 more players with HIGH defense, with the SMFs doing a lot of help to cover the CPU opponents attacking flanks. Having manual selection of player control is important, as is controllilng a midfielder on defense to protect the flank with the halfback. That seems to be the key... I'm not sure what is the best to do besides that, in regards to exact formation positioning and attacking arrows.
Advance 3 at the back
OK here is a formation I like to switch to every now and then.
This is a very balanced formation (actually slightly defensive): The legendary 3-5-2 formation. It works really well, and with the right choice of players, helps you play nice football. You have a good grip on the mid feild, and with the right twist it can be very offensive.
I was surprised also to know that this is Seabass's favorite formation. I even had a look at his starting line up
As an advance formation, I combine the basic 3-5-2 with 2 other formations. The idea is simple: the two LMF & RMF players push forward in the offensive position to be LW & RW, and in the defensive situation, they push back to be WBs.
These 2 players (LWF & RWF) are key here. They should be very balanced players, fast, good in dribble and crosses. I noticed after switching between these formations heavily, those 2 players loose most of their energy by end of the game but they are always the key to score. You can score heavily using though balls to CFs from OMF or one of SMF. Also, Crosses work really well. Surprisingly also, scoring is possible using the three formations, even the most defensive one. Defense wise, it is very secure and almost impossible to be conquered from the center. Meantime, the SMFs cover well the sides especially when they are in their WB position.
In the picture I posted, you would notice that in formation B (attack) I changed on of the DMF to be CMF to push forward and more control the mid feild. It works well as well when he stays as a DMF2 similar to its original position in formation A.
The beauty of this advance formation set is that you can switch to many times during the game back and forth (sometimes even during the same attack). With the exception of RMF & LWF, almost all other players' positions are kept and you wouldn't feel confused. Thatswhy I mentioned early, you can keep the the second DMF in his position during the attack. In all cases, changing only these two positions has huge defensive or offensive impact.
This is the concept. I think if you played with it, it might be very fruitful for almost everyone.
More to come.
-Observer
OK here is a formation I like to switch to every now and then.
This is a very balanced formation (actually slightly defensive): The legendary 3-5-2 formation. It works really well, and with the right choice of players, helps you play nice football. You have a good grip on the mid feild, and with the right twist it can be very offensive.
I was surprised also to know that this is Seabass's favorite formation. I even had a look at his starting line up
As an advance formation, I combine the basic 3-5-2 with 2 other formations. The idea is simple: the two LMF & RMF players push forward in the offensive position to be LW & RW, and in the defensive situation, they push back to be WBs.
These 2 players (LWF & RWF) are key here. They should be very balanced players, fast, good in dribble and crosses. I noticed after switching between these formations heavily, those 2 players loose most of their energy by end of the game but they are always the key to score. You can score heavily using though balls to CFs from OMF or one of SMF. Also, Crosses work really well. Surprisingly also, scoring is possible using the three formations, even the most defensive one. Defense wise, it is very secure and almost impossible to be conquered from the center. Meantime, the SMFs cover well the sides especially when they are in their WB position.
In the picture I posted, you would notice that in formation B (attack) I changed on of the DMF to be CMF to push forward and more control the mid feild. It works well as well when he stays as a DMF2 similar to its original position in formation A.
The beauty of this advance formation set is that you can switch to many times during the game back and forth (sometimes even during the same attack). With the exception of RMF & LWF, almost all other players' positions are kept and you wouldn't feel confused. Thatswhy I mentioned early, you can keep the the second DMF in his position during the attack. In all cases, changing only these two positions has huge defensive or offensive impact.
This is the concept. I think if you played with it, it might be very fruitful for almost everyone.
More to come.
-Observer
observer said:
OK here is a formation I like to switch to every now and then.
This is a very balanced formation (actually slightly defensive): The legendary 3-5-2 formation. It works really well, and with the right choice of players, helps you play nice football. You have a good grip on the mid feild, and with the right twist it can be very offensive.
I was surprised also to know that this is Seabass's favorite formation. I even had a look at his starting line up
As an advance formation, I combine the basic 3-5-2 with 2 other formations. The idea is simple: the two LMF & RMF players push forward in the offensive position to be LW & RW, and in the defensive situation, they push back to be WBs.
These 2 players (LWF & RWF) are key here. They should be very balanced players, fast, good in dribble and crosses. I noticed after switching between these formations heavily, those 2 players loose most of their energy by end of the game but they are always the key to score. You can score heavily using though balls to CFs from OMF or one of SMF. Also, Crosses work really well. Surprisingly also, scoring is possible using the three formations, even the most defensive one. Defense wise, it is very secure and almost impossible to be conquered from the center. Meantime, the SMFs cover well the sides especially when they are in their WB position.
In the picture I posted, you would notice that in formation B (attack) I changed on of the DMF to be CMF to push forward and more control the mid feild. It works well as well when he stays as a DMF2 similar to its original position in formation A.
The beauty of this advance formation set is that you can switch to many times during the game back and forth (sometimes even during the same attack). With the exception of RMF & LWF, almost all other players' positions are kept and you wouldn't feel confused. Thatswhy I mentioned early, you can keep the the second DMF in his position during the attack. In all cases, changing only these two positions has huge defensive or offensive impact.
This is the concept. I think if you played with it, it might be very fruitful for almost everyone.
More to come.
-Observer
Is this formation for WE9?
verry verry nice observer!! and well done
i have 2 questions
1. the moment of choice to switch between the 3 formations
and second wich players do you use for smf/wb/rwf position?
i have gambino, kaiser,cruyf, r. carlos, but who else can play that position well and has the stamima of an ox?!
thx frank
i have 2 questions
1. the moment of choice to switch between the 3 formations
and second wich players do you use for smf/wb/rwf position?
i have gambino, kaiser,cruyf, r. carlos, but who else can play that position well and has the stamima of an ox?!
thx frank
Switching between these 3 formations is a matter of personal prefrence. Typically, I switch to formation 2 to push forward when I have possession in the mid feild, or during corners. Of course, it depends on the score: when I am desperately in need of a goal, or I just want to cruise to defend a precious lead. I always watch the radar carefully. Say when I notice there are empty areas that can be exploited in my defense, I would switch to formation 3.
The beauty of these formations that they are compatable, and, like real teams in real football matches, players move backward or forward depending on the game. When you combine this with manual defense/offense system, the options are endless.
For SMF, Gambiano is good and fast. I LOVE also C. Ronaldo, Neeskens (stamina 99), Shaw (brilliant left foot & dribble), Amoroso (classis france), Mbami, Kaabi, N. Cardozo and many others. Anyone one of those players can play in many positions.
Hope this helps
The beauty of these formations that they are compatable, and, like real teams in real football matches, players move backward or forward depending on the game. When you combine this with manual defense/offense system, the options are endless.
For SMF, Gambiano is good and fast. I LOVE also C. Ronaldo, Neeskens (stamina 99), Shaw (brilliant left foot & dribble), Amoroso (classis france), Mbami, Kaabi, N. Cardozo and many others. Anyone one of those players can play in many positions.
Hope this helps
Formation against 4-3-3 (chelsea or Barca setup)
Hello Observer,
Thanks mate for your reply. I think against teams with 4-2-2 this formation has it all! I discoverd that the 3-5-2 formation against 4-3-3 give some problems. Do you play still 3-5-2 or something else. A lot of guys online play 4-3-3 and it give me some problems.
thx
F:shocking:
Hello Observer,
Thanks mate for your reply. I think against teams with 4-2-2 this formation has it all! I discoverd that the 3-5-2 formation against 4-3-3 give some problems. Do you play still 3-5-2 or something else. A lot of guys online play 4-3-3 and it give me some problems.
thx
F:shocking:
Hey mate,
I change formations a lot, and I hardly stick to one formation for a long time. I have more than 12 formations (each with Formation A & B).
I agree this formation works wonder against 4-4-2. I understand it gets tricky when you play against 3 strikers like in 4-3-3. In this case, your 3 defenders need to be strong & smart and know when to pressure and when to back off waiting for support from the mid-feild. As a rule, I would rather leaving some space at the sides for my opponent to use than to leaving an inch in the center. Besides, I think crosses in WE9 are not effective as it used to be in WE8. So, I let them enjoy the sides
I play a lot against 4-3-3 and my current formation is 3-4-3. To me, I don't face real problems in defense. Of course, I conceive some, but usually I score more. The weakness of 4-3-3 lies in the center midfeild, and when you face 3 your opponent's 3 midfeilds players with 4 players, you should control the midfeild pretty easy. If your opponent uses 1 DMF in the 4-3-3, this makes him more vulnerable.
I will post this formation in more details later.
I change formations a lot, and I hardly stick to one formation for a long time. I have more than 12 formations (each with Formation A & B).
I agree this formation works wonder against 4-4-2. I understand it gets tricky when you play against 3 strikers like in 4-3-3. In this case, your 3 defenders need to be strong & smart and know when to pressure and when to back off waiting for support from the mid-feild. As a rule, I would rather leaving some space at the sides for my opponent to use than to leaving an inch in the center. Besides, I think crosses in WE9 are not effective as it used to be in WE8. So, I let them enjoy the sides
I play a lot against 4-3-3 and my current formation is 3-4-3. To me, I don't face real problems in defense. Of course, I conceive some, but usually I score more. The weakness of 4-3-3 lies in the center midfeild, and when you face 3 your opponent's 3 midfeilds players with 4 players, you should control the midfeild pretty easy. If your opponent uses 1 DMF in the 4-3-3, this makes him more vulnerable.
I will post this formation in more details later.
3-4-3 against humans?
Interesting stuff mate!
I cant wait to see your 3-4-3 in action. I agree that a 4-3-3 is vulnarable in the centre because of the the 1 dmf, but usualy you have also 1 dmf that means your vulnarable too! Against the COM that is not much of a problem because it can't exploit it. BUT against humans that 3-4-3 tactic can become very dangerous, so you have to have a formation A and a formation B i think. Dont know if people here play 3-4-3 against humans?! Maybe they van post some reactions!
Interesting stuff mate!
I cant wait to see your 3-4-3 in action. I agree that a 4-3-3 is vulnarable in the centre because of the the 1 dmf, but usualy you have also 1 dmf that means your vulnarable too! Against the COM that is not much of a problem because it can't exploit it. BUT against humans that 3-4-3 tactic can become very dangerous, so you have to have a formation A and a formation B i think. Dont know if people here play 3-4-3 against humans?! Maybe they van post some reactions!
Hey again,
In the above formation and in my 3-4-3 formation, I always use 2 DMFs. Only in Formation B in the above formtation, I have one DMF moving up to a CMF. However, I mentioned above also that I recommend keeping him in place. Having 2 DMFs is a must especially if you are having 3 CBs. This is to close down the penality area, and keep the pressure in the midfeild.
4-3-3 with 2 OMFs can be countered also by 4-3-3 with 2 DMFs or 1 DMF and CMF. Of course, players awareness and arrows play a role also here.
In the above formation and in my 3-4-3 formation, I always use 2 DMFs. Only in Formation B in the above formtation, I have one DMF moving up to a CMF. However, I mentioned above also that I recommend keeping him in place. Having 2 DMFs is a must especially if you are having 3 CBs. This is to close down the penality area, and keep the pressure in the midfeild.
4-3-3 with 2 OMFs can be countered also by 4-3-3 with 2 DMFs or 1 DMF and CMF. Of course, players awareness and arrows play a role also here.
whoa
whoa this tactic is nice.... defence midfield and forward connected well...they backed up each other so there were few gaps visible...i played around with the forwards and it worked wonders for me ...i chose inter milan and omg...inter has good midfield players...cambiasso , veron , figo , recoba .....use adriano and martins to cause havoc ...and recoba veron and even figo are very very good from outside the box...adriano's shooting ..omg...to me this tactic works well with inter milan..pacey and fast forward in martin..power and strength in adriano..
jMz said:
whoa this tactic is nice.... defence midfield and forward connected well...they backed up each other so there were few gaps visible...i played around with the forwards and it worked wonders for me ...i chose inter milan and omg...inter has good midfield players...cambiasso , veron , figo , recoba .....use adriano and martins to cause havoc ...and recoba veron and even figo are very very good from outside the box...adriano's shooting ..omg...to me this tactic works well with inter milan..pacey and fast forward in martin..power and strength in adriano..
PeleProdigy9
Registered User
Brazil Vs Brazil Formation (observer)???
Hi guys, recently I've run into the problem where my cowardly friend has abandoned his favorite teams to battle me with and instead strictly picks BRAZIL vs me, forcing me to pick them as well to counter their great players. Is there any great formation to dominate their default formation???
Much thanks to anyone who can help here.
Hi guys, recently I've run into the problem where my cowardly friend has abandoned his favorite teams to battle me with and instead strictly picks BRAZIL vs me, forcing me to pick them as well to counter their great players. Is there any great formation to dominate their default formation???
Much thanks to anyone who can help here.
PeleProdigy9
Registered User
OBSERVER'S (3-5-2) works well!
:no: Hey OBSERVER, I tried out your 3-5-2 defensive setup last night online and started finding great success with it. Just wanted to say thanks man. It felt like I had great control of the pitch especially on the defensive side, which is what I've been looking for in a formation! Thanks again man!!!
However, I also ran into problems vs. 4-3-3 opponents and wondered what your 3-4-3 looks like Observer???
:no: Hey OBSERVER, I tried out your 3-5-2 defensive setup last night online and started finding great success with it. Just wanted to say thanks man. It felt like I had great control of the pitch especially on the defensive side, which is what I've been looking for in a formation! Thanks again man!!!
However, I also ran into problems vs. 4-3-3 opponents and wondered what your 3-4-3 looks like Observer???
PeleProdigy9
Registered User
FOILING the 4-2-2-2????
Hi guys can anyone please tell me what formation best disrupts the 4-2-2-2 formation? Thanks.
Hi guys can anyone please tell me what formation best disrupts the 4-2-2-2 formation? Thanks.
3-4-3 formation
Just a quick request for Observer,
could you please post your 3-4-3 formation that combats best against 4-1-2-3 formations?
You seem to know what you are doing and I really want a formation to combat that formation due to it being a real pain in the ass lately to play against. Bloody cut backs really going on my nerves!
Just a quick request for Observer,
could you please post your 3-4-3 formation that combats best against 4-1-2-3 formations?
You seem to know what you are doing and I really want a formation to combat that formation due to it being a real pain in the ass lately to play against. Bloody cut backs really going on my nerves!
I am sorry guys I have been very busy lately, and I could not respond to many of your requests. I would love to chime in this dicussion, but time is not on my side these days.
My wife just delivered our first baby yesterday. We had a beautiful babygirl: Sophie
It is an amazing feeling.
I promise I will respond as soon as I can.
Thanks
My wife just delivered our first baby yesterday. We had a beautiful babygirl: Sophie
It is an amazing feeling.
I promise I will respond as soon as I can.
Thanks