Do not buy pes 2012

[g221911g]

and by the way no1 likes a smart arse

--Said the dumbass.....

 

[shaun7]

It's useless with all the insults. Some like the game, some don't. Everyone should be happy with his choice. There's no need for insults.

I myself am not extremely happy with pes 12, but at times it does play really well. But as I said, it feels unfinished and the bad side is EXTREMELY ANNOYING. But overall, it has more good than bad for me.

Oh and if you play camera on long, the game is faster and if you play on long camera and -2, the game somehow plays better than on wide because you feel more in control of your defence. I don't know how this can be possible, maybe it's because you are closer to the action.

Maybe Pes suffers to render at very long ranges. I do not know. But anyway you get the point. Some like it and some don't.

 

[MozzyEng]

It's useless with all the insults. Some like the game, some don't. Everyone should be happy with his choice. There's no need for insults.

I myself am not extremely happy with pes 12, but at times it does play really well. But as I said, it feels unfinished and the bad side is EXTREMELY ANNOYING. But overall, it has more good than bad for me.

Well said!. Trading insults ain't gonna deter from the fact that most people rate this game very well!. Its pointless trying to defend pes in this thread cause after all it is named "Do not buy pes 2012". Well tough shit i bought it and i like it!. Sure there's annoyances but name a game where there aint any, There is none simple

 

[Ali]

Well said!. Trading insults ain't gonna deter from the fact that most people rate this game very well!. Its pointless trying to defend pes in this thread cause after all it is named "Do not buy pes 2012". Well tough shit i bought it and i like it!. Sure there's annoyances but name a game where there aint any, There is none simple

It's not pointless trying to defend it. It's only pointless if you add nothing to the discussion and just end up insulting the folk who don't like it..... and visa versa.

 

[Micho]

It's useless with all the insults. Some like the game, some don't. Everyone should be happy with his choice. There's no need for insults.

I myself am not extremely happy with pes 12, but at times it does play really well. But as I said, it feels unfinished and the bad side is EXTREMELY ANNOYING. But overall, it has more good than bad for me.

Oh and if you play camera on long, the game is faster and if you play on long camera and -2, the game somehow plays better than on wide because you feel more in control of your defence. I don't know how this can be possible, maybe it's because you are closer to the action.

Maybe Pes suffers to render at very long ranges. I do not know. But anyway you get the point. Some like it and some don't.

no its not happy when its already 2012 and they still fail to code a football simulation.. where are we?? ice ages!!!

 

[Zidane_Is_Art]

PES 2012 and Fifa 12 are both rubbish games. They either need to merge and use the best parts of both games to make the perfect game for us fans or one of them needs to up their game and finally get rid of the opposition. Both look unlikely to happen though because of money and politics. Don't buy either game. Swapped my PES 2012 for BF3.

 

[Micho]

PES 2012 and Fifa 12 are both rubbish games. They either need to merge and use the best parts of both games to make the perfect game for us fans or one of them needs to up their game and finally get rid of the opposition. Both look unlikely to happen though because of money and politics. Don't buy either game. Swapped my PES 2012 for BF3.

no i dont want them to merge because if they did you will get the ultimate rubbish game... i want them both to go bankrupt and the CEOs to die

i was checking some statistics from football games and noticed that almost all the times the team who dominates possession/ high pass completion rate wins... have you ever wondered how many times you control the possession and the midfield in PES and in the end you find yourself losing?

die seabass:duel::jedi:

 

[abu97]

fifa 12 isn't rubbish if you played it. It is more free than pes as there is freedom in everythins, even player positioning. None are obv perfect but fifa is taking half a step forward whilst konami is taking 1 step forward and 1.5 steps back eventhough for me pes 2012 beats pes 2011 out of the water

 

[Zidane_Is_Art]

no i dont want them to merge because if they did you will get the ultimate rubbish game... i want them both to go bankrupt and the CEOs to die

i was checking some statistics from football games and noticed that almost all the times the team who dominates possession/ high pass completion rate wins... have you ever wondered how many times you control the possession and the midfield in PES and in the end you find yourself losing?

die seabass:duel::jedi:

Totally agree with you. I'm always in the 60-65% possession stats against the highest difficulty settings and against really really good human players but even though I have more possession, the better chances, the higher number of chances, more corners...it's always the little R1 running noobs who waltz through the midfield and defence and even take on the keeper. Keepers are rubbish. Defending is the worst I have ever seen. To those who say you have to give it time and learn the new jockeying and variations of the R2 defence and closing passing channels...even if you master that you STILL will not have a FAIR chance at defending against any player with dribbling and speed stats in their 90's. Not to mention the numerous deflections, own goals, bad goalkeeping and extremely poor refereeing.

 

[Zidane_Is_Art]

fifa 12 isn't rubbish if you played it. It is more free than pes as there is freedom in everythins, even player positioning. None are obv perfect but fifa is taking half a step forward whilst konami is taking 1 step forward and 1.5 steps back eventhough for me pes 2012 beats pes 2011 out of the water

Fifa 12 is a good game. Almost seems better than PES 2012. That is until you realise there are dead certain ways of guaranteeing yourself a goal. Average long passer. Long through ball to someone who runs the lines well like Darren Bent. Finesse shot. 9 out of 10 times you are guaranteed a goal. Way too easy to score. PES 2012 wins when it comes to freedom of play but Fifa wins when it comes to defending because BALANCE actually works in Fifa. The impact engine is a huge fail for me though. To be fair both games are as bad as each other.

 

[abu97]

impact engine fails a lot but have you seen pes's utter garnage collision system. I guarantee whenever your opposition has a corner, if you put a player to go on the back post his body will go through the post so impact engine is better than pes collision system but they both need tweaking. But for freedom, fifa is better because in pes the com plays the match for ya - the passing asistance is stupid as it doessn't make sense, there is no freedom in shooting and crossing and in fifa you can adjust seings for this to match your style so fifa is better in terms of freedom.
You are right about overpowered finesse shots in fifa eventhough they were overpowered in pes 6, also crossing to the back post you are right about but shooting from the half-way line you are wrong. In pes you can shoot from anywhere so you arre particularly right and wrong

 

[Micho]

Totally agree with you. I'm always in the 60-65% possession stats against the highest difficulty settings and against really really good human players but even though I have more possession, the better chances, the higher number of chances, more corners...it's always the little R1 running noobs who waltz through the midfield and defence and even take on the keeper. Keepers are rubbish. Defending is the worst I have ever seen. To those who say you have to give it time and learn the new jockeying and variations of the R2 defence and closing passing channels...even if you master that you STILL will not have a FAIR chance at defending against any player with dribbling and speed stats in their 90's. Not to mention the numerous deflections, own goals, bad goalkeeping and extremely poor refereeing.

spot on dude, that is the main thing that pisses me off and makes me destroy the game pad... that last sentence you said :jongcrymore:

 

[abu97]

i agree- in a situation two players in my team were trying to blast the ball and they both mis kicked it and the goalkeeper hen tried blasting it out but he fall on the 2 defenders lading to a goal.
Pure wank

 

[Micho]

i agree- in a situation two players in my team were trying to blast the ball and they both mis kicked it and the goalkeeper hen tried blasting it out but he fall on the 2 defenders lading to a goal.
Pure wank

happens every fucking time.................... :crymore:
try playing against a human controlling barca... sanchez dribble 1 dribble 2 dribble 3 dribble lahm schweinsteiger gustavo boateng get past neuer then bam goal 1-0 barca...... now messi dribble 1 dribble 2 dribble 3 past all my players again bam 2 - 0 barca... this is sick........ what the fuck is this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :w00t :w00t :shocking::shocking: :w00t:loopy::loopy:

:doh:

 

[mason5r]

lol at u faggots..

i heart this game

 

[Hunter]

lol at u faggots..

i heart this game

Don't be offensive. Everyone has opinions.

You've already been warned about insulting other members, so make sure you refrain from doing so in the future now. It's just unnecessary, and you're wasting your energy on something negative. You can do better.

 

[Micho]

:dwighthah::doh:

lol at u faggots..

i heart this game

 

[Micho]

This is the point. Surely PES players know this already. The curve is steep, and by steep I mean K2 steep!!

I put in well over two hundred demo games, and have already put it over fifty retail games. I don't think I'm exaggerating that all in all, you'll need a combined total of 100 games across demos and retail to even begin to understand how to play defence properly, it's just true.

Like I always do after long sessions on PES that can last up to a couple of days, I think I can get something better out of the game and want a change of scenary. I boot up FIFA, and start off where I finished after 6 games or so me being top. I'm playing Man Utd. I score with Suarez
inside 7 minutes on World Class with a series a pedestrian right to left, then left to right moves. I win the game one nil. The only threat to me throughout was whether or not my unresponsive defenders would be done by the ultra reflex move of the CPU when the CPU works its way to the corner of the 18 yard box. Their patterns of attack were a constant and there was nothing outside the box in the way they attacked. I then played Everton and won that two-nil. Carroll and Suarez.

In around 30 minutes of those two games I've never been so bored in all my life. I won two games so you'd think I'd be ecstatic, I was just there, sitting, emotionless really. The kids were screaming, people were popping up left, right and centre in front of the tele, but nothing from me. I felt a strange sort of indifference.

Contrast that to PES, when kids screaming, people in front of the tele and generally people breaking my PES Zone where I am almost teetering off the anger management cliff and you get the picture.....

On PES, on TP, every second counts. The concentration levels needed to hold out if you play either 15 minute games or 20 minute games is huge. You have to defend properly at every move that breaks down and know where to position players, sometimes you have to concede ground until support arrives, sometimes you can press high up the pitch.

It has taken me literally dozens of days to get a formation that works well with my style of play and have spent hours tinkering on the tactics board.

Do you know how many hours I spend tinkering on the FIFA tactics board? NONE. I've never changed the tactics once, I don't care who starts for me and who is out, I just play the game and I'm top. The learning curve for me this year must have been about 3 minutes, honestly try this.

If you have both games and you're having a hard time winning on FIFA, just go and play PES for half a day on Top Player. When you get back to playing FIFA you'll find the game much much easier.

*Please note that ALL my opinions are now based on the PC version of PES, I agree that the PS3 version can sometimes just go skitz and feel broken*

i dont need to learn something i've done for 30 years... your comment is irrelevant and completely has nothing to do with what we are complaining about :bs::bs::bs::bs::doh:

 

[techboy11]

All I can say Micho, is your now the singular reason I don't want to come on PESGaming anymore.

Your bullshit is constant and incessant.

There's a guy on here, AMATEUR his name is, he is wind up merchant of the highest quality and gets everyone riled up by his opinions on the game.

But do you know what, I respect him immensely. He has his theories, sets them out in often long ultra detailed accuracy and tries to back his views up with evidence of some kind. He's the Marmite guy on here; but love him or hate him he always brings something to the table and always challenges you to think about what he has stated.

Micho, you are just annoying. Until someone gets rid of you or bans you or something for just being you, I've afraid I'll be giving PESGaming a wide berth for a while. Thanks PESGaming, in general you do a great job, but this site is fast becoming a juvenile little love-in, in which young little bitches vent their pre-pubescent anger.

 

[abu97]

i wonder how so many people find fifa easy. I get thrashed 5-0 and it's probably because i never do skills, only pass or nutmeg