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Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

HH

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:cool:

And I was just minding my own business...
 

S1mon

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So much more to it than 4... and then Gamespot have the cheek, and downright idiocy to award GTAIV a 10... things completely went down hill there after Greg Kasavin left...
 

Barry

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I thought GTA IV was fantastic but I would've adored it if they kept the same arcade driving of GTA SA.
 

Charlie

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The graphics is the only thing IV has over SA. Ive said it numerous times and recieved bad rep but IV was/is a major let down, in my opinion.
 

Hunter

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I thought I would have enjoyed GTAIV more, having been to New York a few years ago I was of the impression I'd drive around the different boroughs and recognise things, be able to smile about it. Turns out, GTAIV just isn't as "fun" as one would hope a game to be, that is of course in comparison to San Andreas.
 

fick

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I thought GTA IV was fantastic but I would've adored it if they kept the same arcade driving of GTA SA.

IV is the current pinnacle of immersive sand-box gaming. It's equally beautiful and technically superior to anything else out there and yeah, it was damn fine to play. But it lacked something. Something important to the GTA series. As Hunter has already said, fun.

It's the lack fun involved in pointless roaming around in the game that has made me seek out SA once more.
 

Baddar

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The graphics is the only thing IV has over SA. Ive said it numerous times and recieved bad rep but IV was/is a major let down, in my opinion.

The thing people aren't getting is that GTA IV wasn't trying to be "better" than San Andreas.

Sure, many people would've loved IV to have the fun aspects of San Andreas in it, but with the next gen game they've gone for realism and sacrificed quite a bit of the fun.

Is GTA IV the best R* could've produced? Probably not. It wouldn't have taken much for them to make huge planes flyable or to add more of the "little" things that made San Andreas the game it was. From a business standpoint though, having GTA IV the way it was can only be seen as a good move. Had IV been San Andreas with fancy graphics and all the fun stuff wrapped in it, making another GTA would've been harder I think, to give it a distinct difference between it and IV.

It's annoying, I know. PES and FIFA have done stuff like this for years, and so have loads of other games. They add stuff, people like it, it gets removed, then it gets called an upgrade when it's brought back in a couple of years. It still sells though.
 

Baddar

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Yeah, I've got Saints Row 2. Done about 3 missions on it though and never gone back. I'm by no means a trophy whore, but that's what it's lacking...the extra incentive to play it.
 

fick

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The thing people aren't getting is that GTA IV wasn't trying to be "better" than San Andreas.

Then why make it? Cash whoring? Just for the crack? Why else but to take the series forward. R* 'aint EA you know...

If you like SA I imagine you'd love Saints Row 2, I had a shitload of fun playing that.

SR2 was a blast. It had all the stupidity of SA but wrapped up a, little prettier. Shame that the best bit of the whole story was the first mission,escaping prison.

Would love this to be released on PS3.

Have you got a backwards compatable PS3? If yes, go get a PS2 copy, it runs like a dream. If not... well, tough shit.
 

Baddar

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Then why make it? Cash whoring? Just for the crack? Why else but to take the series forward. R* 'aint EA you know...

You're missing my point.

San Andreas was fun, and was meant to be. GTA IV took a "motion picture" turn which is why some people didn't get on with it.

By "not trying to make IV better than SA", I just meant that they feel like completely different games, and it wasn't really supposed to be SA's sequel/upgrade.
 

fick

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I understand where you are coming from, but I fear you are still missing the big picture. What is the point of making a new game in what is essentially a series, if it's not going to be an improvement over it's predecessors?

All of a sudden, R* had all this extra processing power... "ooh, we can make it look awesome" they probably said, "super-duper rain & a more gritty feel, just like we did on GTA3 when we went all 3D for the PS2..."

So it didn't inspire the more moronic purchaser, but there can be no denying on a technical and immersive level it's one hell of a lot better than SA. Does that not make it better?
 

thenotsogood

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I understand where you are coming from, but I fear you are still missing the big picture. What is the point of making a new game in what is essentially a series, if it's not going to be an improvement over it's predecessors?

All of a sudden, R* had all this extra processing power... "ooh, we can make it look awesome" they probably said, "super-duper rain & a more gritty feel, just like we did on GTA3 when we went all 3D for the PS2..."

So it didn't inspire the more moronic purchaser, but there can be no denying on a technical and immersive level it's one hell of a lot better than SA. Does that not make it better?

I think it's as simple as wanting a new direction. But with the new console + multi-platform support, I don't think having all the little things that made SA awesome was part of the idea, I think it was finding their feet in this generation of gaming.

Think about how much more is getting added into TBOGT since they're catering for just the one platform. Still not SA-esque add-ons but it's inching closer and closer.
 

considine46

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My main bug with iv over SA is the killling potential!It is an 18+ so why have those things retarded?I aint gonna mow anybody over with a combine in real life or flamethrower so why deny me.I wanted a pointed stick in this one or a pit bull.The graphics are enhanced but giving me a mobile proved like just in real life when having a shit or in a mission when textd by a girlfriend became a pain in the arse!Every game so far gave you a new toy,iv denied you(jetpack etc).i get the feeling consoles are reaching thier pinnacle and the software or thier programmers arent reaching thiers.Im just hoping Gran Turismo 5 proves me wrong
 
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