The Player Form Arrows Explained! Finally!

[Compulsion]

I think I've found evidence that the original table (on page 1 of this thread) is accurate. When you save a replay, the player stats are saved to the file, but I noticed that the stats saved in a replay varied slightly from what you see when selecting your team. This in part seems to be due to the effects of the form arrows. The replay file has space to store stats for 40 players in each team, if there is less than 40 players the spare space is filled by identical dummy players with average stats (50 for everything). By looking at these players I produced the following table, which is very similar to the original table:

arrow			Red	Yellow	Green	Blue	Grey

WEAK FOOT ACCURACY	0	0	0	0	0
WEAK FOOT FREQUENCY	0	0	0	0	0
ATTACK			12	6	0	-8	-16
DEFENSE			12	6	0	-8	-16
BALANCE			12	6	0	-12	-18
STAMINA			12	6	0	-6	-12
TOP SPEED		8	4	0	-6	-12
ACCELERATION		12	6	0	-8	-18
RESPONSE		12	6	0	-8	-18
AGILITY			0	0	0	0	0
DRIBBLE ACCURACY	8	4	0	-4	-8
DRIBBLE SPEED		8	4	0	-6	-12
SHORT PASS ACCURACY	8	4	0	-4	-8
SHORT PASS SPEED	6	2	0	-2	-6
LONG PASS ACCURACY	8	4	0	-4	-8
LONG PASS SPEED		6	2	0	-2	-6
SHOT ACCURACY		8	4	0	-4	-8
SHOT POWER		12	6	0	-6	-12
SHOT TECHNIQUE		8	4	0	-4	-8
FREE KICK ACCURACY	8	4	0	-6	-12
CURLING			8	4	0	-6	-12
HEADER			8	4	0	-4	-8
JUMP			12	6	0	-6	-12
TECHNIQUE		8	4	0	-6	-12
AGGRESSION		8	4	0	-6	-12
MENTALITY		12	6	0	-8	-18
CONSISTENCY		0	0	0	0	0
GOAL KEEPING SKILLS	0	0	0	0	0
TEAM WORK ABILITY	0	0	0	0	0
CONDITION / FITNESS	0	0	0	0	0

I noticed one player who's stats had been adjusted by half the amount for a blue arrow, so another factor must be involved in the calculation.

 

[phelan]

Is that 100% certain?

Personally I find Henry even quicker when he's on a red arrow compared to a green. Might just be me though.

Has anyone made a 'perfect' player, all max stats, and then seen how he plays on a green arrow compared to a red?

It's as certain as it gets.

Let me quote myself "I've found out that 99 is the maximum through some experimenting with players that had 99 in all stats. They performed equally well on red compared to green arrows (and of course performed worse on less than green arrows)."

What I did was letting a perfect player run up and down the field while I monitored his stamina bar.

A perfect player on grey arrow got tired before a perfect player on green arrows (implying that his stamina stat must've been lower than 99 as expected).

But a perfect player on red arrows got tired in the same rate as the "green" player (implying that his stamina stat did not exeed 99).

 

[Valery]

My God....could you analyze this subject anymore?

I bought the Pc version of PES3 for the sole fact that you can edit stuff a lot easier.

I've come on here to check patches and have come across you lot stripping the game to its bare bones!! haha...

I thought i was a big fan....guess not...

thanks for the tips tho giggsy....

 

[beenie_man]

how do you lot know that the arrows bost the player's accuracy and so on!!!

 

[chiefb]

coluor of arrows

on the settings page it does say what the colours stand for

 

[chiefb]

while playin on ml,you can tell straight away the difference in your player from when their on red too another colour.as red maximum fitness,agility etc.

 

[Zygalski]

As far as I know, the game or manual doesn't tell you anything about what the form arrows mean.

 

[MattShez]

If a player has a stat of 99 will it go higher if they had a red or ornag arrow or will it stay at 99 maximum does anybody know?

 

[7RONALDO7]

It wont go over 99 i think!

 

[unoriginal]

The red arrow means they r 100% fit yellow is 70% green is 50% light blue 25% grey litarely means crap

ive noticed when one of your players get injured when they come back from their injurey they arrow is normally grey

no the 99 stats won't go any more if good condition

 

[juckes]

Nevermind the arrow buisness, who's the girl in the pic

 

[Dan]

its hardly fucking rocket science is it, player with red, yellow or green arrow play them any other color rest them

 

[hitmanuk2k]

The red arrow means they r 100% fit yellow is 70% green is 50% light blue 25% grey litarely means crap

ive noticed when one of your players get injured when they come back from their injurey they arrow is normally grey

no the 99 stats won't go any more if good condition

it has nothing to do with how fit they are. the fitness metre is the little green bar thing next to the persons name. the arrows have been explained. its like a morale thing.

 

[Lorenzinho]

the arrows have been explained. its like a morale thing.

I always thought it was about form.

When Henry is on good form in real life, he plays better. This translates to PES as a red arrow.

 

[Zygalski]

It all means the same thing.
People just call it different names.
form = morale = attitude = up-for-it-ness

 

[hitmanuk2k]

well its definitley not fitness though. thats my point. i think it definiltey does have something to do with form though, although not always. but quite often i find if i leave a player out of the team he will have a red arrow when he comes back... but ive never really noticed players being on red after having a great game previously.

 

[Freddyplayer]

ogm i dont wanna read anything else! now u guys messes my head! :S i think ill forget the arrows bussiness :s

 

[Zygalski]

If you forget the arrows, you will disadvantage yourself.

Look at it this way - a more "up-facing" arrow is better. That's it.

 

[Hunter]

may i ask a question or two..........what is the little browny orange bar underneath the green fitness bar....and when playing a match what is the little bar underneath the players name...if im right in saying i think they keep moving ??????

 

[Cray]

the little bar is their 'fitness' bar...the more the orange bar gets, the more tired the players are..
e.g. there is 2 matches in a week, after the first match, some players might have their little bar fill up a bit, that means they are a bit tired. the more u get in this little bar, the less the green bar is and their performance would actually worst than normal.

rest them for a week, and the bar would go away