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Unofficial - How are you doing in Master League?

halainpb

Registered User
I am also playing ML quite many years (about 7). It is the first time that I had hard time in ML at top level. My main issue is the defence, I cannot stop CPU. Professional level seems to fit me quite well until now; R2+X at defend seems to help (I use it for few games) although I still find hard to defend. Do you find difficult to defend on crosses as well?

Defense is my same problem, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I use R2+X and square but at times they seem to just walk pass my defense!
And crosses, specially CK's I just can't defend
 

abu97

Registered User
Im a long time PES fan, I started playing it since the ISS days in PS1. And I always play it in Top Player, and I do pretty well.
This year is... so different!!! I tried a ML in top player with orginal ML players, and I got DESTROYED like never before.
I kind of wanted to learn the defensive system so I started playing Eurocups, worlcups, and so on. Top player wasn't still an option even with teams like Spain or Barcelona.
So guys, what do you recommend for difficulty, Professional or Superstar (which I haven't tried)
I wanna start a new ML but I will need lots lots of patience.
KONAMI have turned superstar into a cheat fest in patch 1.03. There is no freedom of AI and everything is too compact in the middle of the pitch.
For patch 1.02, I recommend strongly professional as there is minimal scripting and there is better player movement
 

halainpb

Registered User
KONAMI have turned superstar into a cheat fest in patch 1.03. There is no freedom of AI and everything is too compact in the middle of the pitch.
For patch 1.02, I recommend strongly professional as there is minimal scripting and there is better player movement

That is sad to know, I don't understand what is KONAMI trying to do with this more than obvious scripting...
And thanks, I started a new ML in professional and it's much more acceptable, I finally won a game :rolleyes:
I hope Konami does something to fix PES cuz I don't like the way they are taking the franchise
 

.Lee.

Registered User
It's taken my team about 4 seasons to start clicking, was wondering if it was ever going to happen. The average rating of my team is about 75 now, but passes are sticking better, I'm winning my fair share of headers even while defending corners :w00t and I can actually put lower teams under constant pressure.

I usually play very defensive as I used to get hit on the break a great deal and with my sub par defence any striker with a bit of pace would punish them. Against Arsenal away I was constantly under the cosh but held on for a 0-0 draw which I was happy with. The games I was winning where usually 1-0, 2-1, rarely by more than 1 goal.

But playing at home against Chelsea, using my same old same old, defend like mad and see what I can pick up on the break, I went 1-0 down from a thunderbolt by Mata just before the break. Half time had a cuppa tea, coz that's what us English do to think things over. And thought balls to it, I'm going to have a go at them.

Pushing my wingers further forward pulling my AMF back into a CMF area and changing my DMF into a CMF to fill the gap in the middle of the park making my formation more 4-2-2-2, with 2 high wingers, from my 4-1-3-2.

Soon as I got the ball after Chelsea kicked off, I was giving the ball to Ettori, to try and feed the wingers Shimizu on the right and Jarvis on the left, but rather than holding the ball up on the wings and using safe passes to players outside the box, I'm using R1 and RT to use a change of pace and have a go at the full backs, getting in crosses when I can. When the ball does get into the middle of the park I'm even using Ettori to have a run at the back line, trying to feed in though balls or just get into the box for a shot.

I had Chelsea on the back foot for the whole second half but wasn't able to equalise, but I gave them a hell of a game.

After full time I was close to shouting at myself, "That's how you play, from now on that's how you play!"

My next game was Everton away, using a similar albeit not as gung-ho tactics, I battered them 3-0 and it could have been 8-0.

I guess my point is, I got so used to having a crap team, and defending like mad because everybody was better than me, I didn't realise that my team was good enough and had forgot how to attack.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
I guess my point is, I got so used to having a crap team, and defending like mad because everybody was better than me, I didn't realise that my team was good enough and had forgot how to attack.

That's exactly how i did as well. I totally focused on defending resulting in a ridicoulus amount of 0-0 matches - like 5 or 6 in a row or something. Then i started losing 1-0 and when i won it was only by 1 goal. The good thing was that i didn't let in many goals, but i sure didn't score many either. So i reviewed my tactic, and made a new. Same formation, but "standard" and compactness 20, defensive line, 18, pressure 14, player suppurt 0 etc. And sidebacks are placed as far to the sides as possible resulting in my team intercepting most of their long passes. And i'm learning how to intercept their through balls down the middle as well, so it's looking good now.
But some of the players have played most matches for 4 seasons now, so it was indeed about time my patience paid off. But it's looking good - i'm placed 1st in the league, and i'm giving the big teams a fair fight in EL.
 

Gavdalf

Registered User
Hi All

playing on superstar level, been Pesing for years, using the default team, oh the joys of having Jaric and Dodo back, must say I play Jaric as DM

got of to my worst start in PES history, lost my first 5 by 1 goal, got home yesterday and thought right lets have a look at the training challenges - Defending

I did the challenges and at the start in tells you how to defend, next 5 games won 3 drawn 2, (and they were good wins too) getting some much more enjoyment from the game and managing to keep pressure on the opposition and build attacks cus my defending is so much better.

Everyone should do the defending training

another thing on FK, and corners I press the R3 stick, press it to flick to the player you want to control in the box or upfront , press O and the comp will cross it to your man. Im now causing havoc on the corners or FKs winning knock downs, flick ons just getting something on the ball, sometimes even a header on target with the mighty Ordaz

Question however

obviously we've all noticed our defenders doing one up the field like a crazed lunatic, so I check my mark settings and cotsload (i play 3 at the back with wide RB & LB's) is set to man mark Bullard in Central midfield , What? and you cant take him off man marking and have to put him on someone else, I dont want him marking anyone?

is this a problem for all and how does anyone resolve it.

Loving the game now and to all do the defending challenges Training, then enjoy your PES rather than going insane as I was before hand
 

Rasmus

Registered User
I never noticed anything like that. But next time i play, i will try to see if anything similar happens and how to deal with it. What tactics do you use?
 

abu97

Registered User
Hi All

playing on superstar level, been Pesing for years, using the default team, oh the joys of having Jaric and Dodo back, must say I play Jaric as DM

got of to my worst start in PES history, lost my first 5 by 1 goal, got home yesterday and thought right lets have a look at the training challenges - Defending

I did the challenges and at the start in tells you how to defend, next 5 games won 3 drawn 2, (and they were good wins too) getting some much more enjoyment from the game and managing to keep pressure on the opposition and build attacks cus my defending is so much better.

Everyone should do the defending training

another thing on FK, and corners I press the R3 stick, press it to flick to the player you want to control in the box or upfront , press O and the comp will cross it to your man. Im now causing havoc on the corners or FKs winning knock downs, flick ons just getting something on the ball, sometimes even a header on target with the mighty Ordaz

Question however

obviously we've all noticed our defenders doing one up the field like a crazed lunatic, so I check my mark settings and cotsload (i play 3 at the back with wide RB & LB's) is set to man mark Bullard in Central midfield , What? and you cant take him off man marking and have to put him on someone else, I dont want him marking anyone?

is this a problem for all and how does anyone resolve it.

Loving the game now and to all do the defending challenges Training, then enjoy your PES rather than going insane as I was before hand
If someone is marking someone, press mark again and press the player he is already marking to make him un-mark.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
Still number 1 in the league. Think there is around 7-8 matches left in the season. Really hope i can get get gold medal, and finally play in CL next season. played 3 games today: 3-3, 2-2 and won 5-3 - Roux scoring 4 goals in that match and only got 7,5 for it! How ever abdellaoue came on in the half time and got 8.0 making only one goal. It's REALLY insane sometimes.
 

stiker

Registered User
man, so frustrating, i missed out on promotion in my second season on goal difference... oh well we'll try again ;)
 

Rasmus

Registered User
Jeez that's just unlucky stiker. Maybe go to the players thread, and see if there's any good advice on decent players you don't already have in your squad :) Roux for example. I bet he would have made those couple of goals you needed.
 

stiker

Registered User
thanks mate... but all i nid is another keeper and some more defenders, leon best is running things up front...
 

Aidan-lfc

Registered User
I was playing PES 12 round a friends house yesterday, and I must say I think I may have been a little hasty in getting rid of my copy. I am planning on picking it up again tomorrow, however I need to know the answer to a few questions:

1.) Has the sprinting bug been fixed on xbox 360?
2.) What the best patch I can get that will fit on a 4GB mem stick? I'm only looking for club emblems like, but if it came with shirt sponsors etc... that would be a bonus.

Thanks.
 

Rasmus

Registered User
^ STIKER: try Rojo from argentina. can play left back and cb. Great defender. Other wise try A. Milosevic - great young swedish defender. Zanka - danish defender. Or if you're lucky you might be able to sign kjaer. He develops great in my ML.

AIDAN: the speed bug is supposed to have been fixed on xbox by the latest patch. Though i'm on ps3, i'm pretty sure. Regarding your second question, who don't you have a look in the editing/option files section? :)
 

Mattshark

Registered User
Does anyone ever feel the game just occasionally blatantly cheats (ie Rooney running physically through my defenders while my other defenders just run out of the way, or worse, John Terry being fast and Dos Santos not being a waste of space).
 

abu97

Registered User
Does anyone ever feel the game just occasionally blatantly cheats (ie Rooney running physically through my defenders while my other defenders just run out of the way, or worse, John Terry being fast and Dos Santos not being a waste of space).
Yes, it's a major problem of the PES world today.
 

.Lee.

Registered User
Does anyone ever feel the game just occasionally blatantly cheats (ie Rooney running physically through my defenders while my other defenders just run out of the way, or worse, John Terry being fast and Dos Santos not being a waste of space).

This is nothing new to PES mate, and there are many threads on this forum complaining about it. Have a read through just to see most of us are in the same boat.
 

Mattshark

Registered User
This is nothing new to PES mate, and there are many threads on this forum complaining about it. Have a read through just to see most of us are in the same boat.

I know mate, it is just so aggrieving to lose to ridiculous players or the game just deciding I should lose. When they change difficulty, just making opposition players much faster is just lazy, change the AI, don't make the players silly.
 

Gavdalf

Registered User
If someone is marking someone, press mark again and press the player he is already marking to make him un-mark.

Cheers, but Ive already tried that, I can take him off Bullard for instance, but I have to put him marking someone for some reason, or it just goes back to man marking bullard
 

abu97

Registered User
Cheers, but Ive already tried that, I can take him off Bullard for instance, but I have to put him marking someone for some reason, or it just goes back to man marking bullard
Then I got another solution -
Go back to gameplan, then press 'let coach take in charge' and it'll set up your formation and default all the marking. Then you can change the formation and that
 
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