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PES Rage Thread: Rage till your heart's content...

Sminky

Registered User
You should sound proof your rooms so you can scream obscenities without upsetting anyone too! :D
 

Ultimate777

Banned
It's so frustrating when you're whooping someone like you were, only for them to quit and you get a 3-0. It should punish them more, take away his goals and add them to yours = 7-0 win for you.

I was playing someone who started scoring own goals on purpose to get the match abandoned because he claimed I was a "LAGGHER". Utter bastards the lot of them.

They should scrap the demo chat.

I like the demo chat but the message choices are lame. You should be able to add your own. You should also be able to bargain with other users for their players in their team, like offer loan or swap deals or cut prices etc.

The mode has a lot of potential. As for your previous post about scripting I only notice it when playing an opponent in a division above my own. It's like there is a force which helps them become harder to beat and they seem to win all the 50/50 and your own players start acting like little bitches scared out of their wits.

For example I'm currently in div2 and was playing a div1 and his squad was standard - not any superstars capable of producing much magic besides forlan. He had mid card players like johnson, tottenhams palacios, pjanic and some other standard players. Yet I got big game players like tevez, toulonoun getting outmuscled and out paced by these freaks and its up being a close contest that he wins through pure luck.

where when I'm playing teams with more or less the same team in my own division or below I'm completely dominate.

It was like that when I was in div3 playing d2 and now when I move up into d2 playing d3/d2 opponents they're easy.
 

Ali

It is happening again
At least now you're starting to notice the scripting online more. It's not just about skill, if the game doesn't want you to win... you're pretty much buggered. Just hope for the best.
 

sweetmusicman

Registered User
I'm actually feeling alot calmer since I stopped playing PES (for the 3rd time)! That said I know when PES2012 starts being promoted I'll be hoping for the feint system to be removed, a proper pace and stamina system implemented and the cursor issue truly sorted. Probably wishful thinking.

I am afraid to say I have started swearing a lot lately, which isn't my style. I feel so guilty afterwards. Saturday morning for the first time sins playing PES 2011 in October I felt like throwing the TV with the controller. I have never been so angered in a very very long time..... It seems KONAMI's understanding or logic of making the game harder is to make your players less responsive when you gave them an instruction.

Luckily my cousin, who introduced me to PES about 7 years ago called me asking whether he could borrow my game for one day. He just bought a ps3 and is considering buying PES 2011. I told him he could have it for the whole week as I'm in a desperate need of taking time off from PES 2011.

One other thing that frustrates the living hell out of me is that I beat the likes of Barca, Real,Chelsea,Arsenal and Liverpool home and away just to loose against Stoke. Guess what, Bolton won the league last year. Understandably so because Messi plays for Bolton; very unrealistic transfer from Konami.
 

Ali

It is happening again
I am afraid to say I have started swearing a lot lately, which isn't my style. I feel so guilty afterwards. Saturday morning for the first time sins playing PES 2011 in October I felt like throwing the TV with the controller. I have never been so angered in a very very long time..... It seems KONAMI's understanding or logic of making the game harder is to make your players less responsive when you gave them an instruction.

Luckily my cousin, who introduced me to PES about 7 years ago called me asking whether he could borrow my game for one day. He just bought a ps3 and is considering buying PES 2011. I told him he could have it for the whole week as I'm in a desperate need of taking time off from PES 2011.

One other thing that frustrates the living hell out of me is that I beat the likes of Barca, Real,Chelsea,Arsenal and Liverpool home and away just to loose against Stoke. Guess what, Bolden won the league last year. Understandably so because Messi plays for Bolden; very unrealistic transfer from Konami.

Who the hell are "Bolden"? Do you mean Bolton? Did we sign Messi??? How is that NOT a realistic transfer? :laugh:

Time off from PES is always good, you'll end up missing it though :) It's annoying in ML that I never seem to be able to win against Utd away from home. It's like the game just let's them beat me because they are Utd.
 

sweetmusicman

Registered User
Who the hell are "Bolden"? Do you mean Bolton? Did we sign Messi??? How is that NOT a realistic transfer? :laugh:

Time off from PES is always good, you'll end up missing it though :) It's annoying in ML that I never seem to be able to win against Utd away from home. It's like the game just let's them beat me because they are Utd.

Funny, I just read your reply to my post and saw that your a Bolton supporter. Upon seeing that I misspelled it I came over here to change it and here I found you ranting about the spelling...lol
 

MastaLeague

Registered User
ARGHHHHhhh!!! I hate the refs!!! The computer tackles you hard = no foul. I touch them, they fall onto the ground and I get a yellow card.
 

Sminky

Registered User
Man that would be one of the most mental transfers I've heard so far on PES. Messi to Bolton! On PES6 Barca bought Darren Bent and Matt Taylor. Truly world class signings :D
 

Halfrax2

Registered User
There was one PES, can't remember which one, where in every ML I ever played Gary Neville signed for Liverpool.
 

Ali

It is happening again
We have a winner :laugh:

That really is something to rant about!!

They should put something in the game that prohibits certain AI transfers. Like Neville going to Liverpool, or Terry going to Utd.
 

Sminky

Registered User
They need to enter club rivalry aspects. They used to identify derby matches in the ML so club rivalries for ML shouldn't be too difficult.
 

alexsw

Registered User
Top Player CPU incredible cheat

Brothers I feel all your pain... But hear this out.

In Master League, Top Player. I'm winning 5-0 against Blackburn Rovers using Liverpool (in FA Cup final) at half time. I'm thinking "Maybe I can make it 10+ nil WOW"... But how wrong I was... The CPU had other plans. Btw, I ended up losing this match thanks to 5 insane goals scored by the CPU in the second half.

Goal 1 - Benjani (PEN) 49'
Glen Johnson is marking M.G. Pederson on the wing, just outside of my penalty box. I slide tackled Pederson but suddenly my control over Glen Johnson was lost, as he was deselected and Agger was selected instead. It all happened in a flash. Agger ended up slide tackling Benjani, getting a red card and giving away a penalty.

Goal 2 - Dunn 56'
Blackburn corner. Corner taken. Headered out powerfully by Carragher to about 35meters away from goal. Dunn chases the ball. As he reaches the ball, he has his back turned to Liverpool goal. He takes a shot first touch. He spins around 180 degrees as he kicks the ball, falling over losing balance in the process. The resulting shot is very very weak. The ball is however, lobbed over Reina, who stands still watching helplessly as the ball goes into the right corner.

Goal 3 - Carragher (O.G.) 72'
Blackburn crosses the ball low from the right wing. No Blackburn attackers in the box and I press triangle, causing Reina to rush out to smother the ball. At this point, I am controlling Poulsen. But suddenly, out of nowhere, Carragher rushes in, and smashes the ball with his right foot into the back of his own net. AI mind controls Carragher into scoring an own goal. Score is 5-3. I'm really pissed at this point, but I'm still not worrying too much. As if I'd lose this match.. Right?

Goal 4 - Lucas (O.G.) 89'
Blackburn corner. Lucas headers the ball into his own net. Own goal. Score is 5-4.
My eyes bulge out as I'm swearing at this situation. But I'm not worried about losing still, as there is 2 minutes of injury time and I get to restart the ball.

Goal 5 - Benjani 92+'
2 minutes of added time. Liverpool restarts the ball and is keeping possession in the back waiting for the clock to run out. As the clock shows 91:40, Carragher clears the ball far far away into Blackburn's half. But it lands directly at the feet of Diouf. The clock is showing 91:53. Diouf passes the ball the Benjani. Who is instantly surrounded by 3 Liverpool defenders. He is heavily pressured and he starts to stumble, but as he is falling over, he manages to successfully lob Reina from 30 meters out. Goal. Liverpool 5, Blackburn 5, extra time.

Goal 6 - Benjani 120+'
Maxi Rodriguez scores for Liverpool early in Extra time to put Liverpool in front. 120 minutes is up. There is 0 minutes of additional time to be played. But Blackburn is still passing the ball around in Liverpool's half for a very, very long time. I watched the replay and counted how many passes they made after 120 minutes was up. They made 17 passes. So I estimate that there was about 5 minutes of additional time played. But the game won't end, as you all know, because CPU has the possession in my half. Benjani gets the ball from about 40meters out from Liverpool goal. He takes a couple of touches and smacks the ball. Reina has missed it. Goal. Benjani hat-trick. Extra time ends 6-6. In we go to Penalty shootout.

Penalty shootout
Robinson makes 3 consecutive saves for Blackburn (One penalty to his right, two to his left). Blackburn scores 3 consecutive penalties. Blackburn wins 3-0 on penalties. I am furious. I throw my PS3 controller and smash it against the wall. I went out immediately bought FIFA 11 (which I played for 3 days and switched back to PES).

The morale of this story: CPU will do whatever it takes to score if they feel like scoring - even if it means mind controlling the opposition players and transforming their players into super saiyans.
 

blob123

Registered User
That's why I always fight not to go to penalties. Several times the AI has saved all my penalties irrespective of which side I put it.

But as much as the AI cheats by scoring impossible goals and making my players freeze or fail to control simple balls, what makes playing this game feel like a chore is how the AI in the ML lines up defensively.




Like its written in stone, at around the 60th minute, they'll line up like so having started out with one of those 3 DMF as an AMF. Basically every team in the entire league uses Liverpool's default 4-2-3-1 which later changes to 4-3-2-1.

Doesn't matter whether they are losing by 3 goals to nothing.
They always switch to uber defensive tactics at 60 mins onwards.
Basically if I don't score before the 60th minute, I'll be in trouble.

On the plus side if I score, that's it for them because I'll never let them have the ball and obviously since they are camping in their half the whole time I can ping the ball between my CBs for the remainder of the game with ease.
 

alexsw

Registered User
Hm... Yeah I noticed that too but the thing is if I lose the ball to them, they have a very high chance of scoring impossible goal to turn the game around. Like that Dunn's goal scored from 40meters out? Ridiculous
 

Prof_Aj

Registered User
Hm... Yeah I noticed that too but the thing is if I lose the ball to them, they have a very high chance of scoring impossible goal to turn the game around. Like that Dunn's goal scored from 40meters out? Ridiculous

fuck you konami!!.. :realmad:!! i just hate this game so much!!
fuck that bold head.. change the engine.. this game suck!!
change everything!! u people just making it worse!!..
dont want to play this game anymore..

how can konami create this stupid game.. freedom your dadys ass!!
 

alonCFC

Registered User
Brothers I feel all your pain... But hear this out.

In Master League, Top Player. I'm winning 5-0 against Blackburn Rovers using Liverpool (in FA Cup final) at half time. I'm thinking "Maybe I can make it 10+ nil WOW"... But how wrong I was... The CPU had other plans. Btw, I ended up losing this match thanks to 5 insane goals scored by the CPU in the second half.

Goal 1 - Benjani (PEN) 49'
Glen Johnson is marking M.G. Pederson on the wing, just outside of my penalty box. I slide tackled Pederson but suddenly my control over Glen Johnson was lost, as he was deselected and Agger was selected instead. It all happened in a flash. Agger ended up slide tackling Benjani, getting a red card and giving away a penalty.

Goal 2 - Dunn 56'
Blackburn corner. Corner taken. Headered out powerfully by Carragher to about 35meters away from goal. Dunn chases the ball. As he reaches the ball, he has his back turned to Liverpool goal. He takes a shot first touch. He spins around 180 degrees as he kicks the ball, falling over losing balance in the process. The resulting shot is very very weak. The ball is however, lobbed over Reina, who stands still watching helplessly as the ball goes into the right corner.

Goal 3 - Carragher (O.G.) 72'
Blackburn crosses the ball low from the right wing. No Blackburn attackers in the box and I press triangle, causing Reina to rush out to smother the ball. At this point, I am controlling Poulsen. But suddenly, out of nowhere, Carragher rushes in, and smashes the ball with his right foot into the back of his own net. AI mind controls Carragher into scoring an own goal. Score is 5-3. I'm really pissed at this point, but I'm still not worrying too much. As if I'd lose this match.. Right?

Goal 4 - Lucas (O.G.) 89'
Blackburn corner. Lucas headers the ball into his own net. Own goal. Score is 5-4.
My eyes bulge out as I'm swearing at this situation. But I'm not worried about losing still, as there is 2 minutes of injury time and I get to restart the ball.

Goal 5 - Benjani 92+'
2 minutes of added time. Liverpool restarts the ball and is keeping possession in the back waiting for the clock to run out. As the clock shows 91:40, Carragher clears the ball far far away into Blackburn's half. But it lands directly at the feet of Diouf. The clock is showing 91:53. Diouf passes the ball the Benjani. Who is instantly surrounded by 3 Liverpool defenders. He is heavily pressured and he starts to stumble, but as he is falling over, he manages to successfully lob Reina from 30 meters out. Goal. Liverpool 5, Blackburn 5, extra time.

Goal 6 - Benjani 120+'
Maxi Rodriguez scores for Liverpool early in Extra time to put Liverpool in front. 120 minutes is up. There is 0 minutes of additional time to be played. But Blackburn is still passing the ball around in Liverpool's half for a very, very long time. I watched the replay and counted how many passes they made after 120 minutes was up. They made 17 passes. So I estimate that there was about 5 minutes of additional time played. But the game won't end, as you all know, because CPU has the possession in my half. Benjani gets the ball from about 40meters out from Liverpool goal. He takes a couple of touches and smacks the ball. Reina has missed it. Goal. Benjani hat-trick. Extra time ends 6-6. In we go to Penalty shootout.

Penalty shootout
Robinson makes 3 consecutive saves for Blackburn (One penalty to his right, two to his left). Blackburn scores 3 consecutive penalties. Blackburn wins 3-0 on penalties. I am furious. I throw my PS3 controller and smash it against the wall. I went out immediately bought FIFA 11 (which I played for 3 days and switched back to PES).

The morale of this story: CPU will do whatever it takes to score if they feel like scoring - even if it means mind controlling the opposition players and transforming their players into super saiyans.

sorry for being a dick, but I call fake on this.
 
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